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JClark
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23 Minutes in Hell

If you get a chance please check this outů.
http://spiritlessons.com/
An incredible Testimony of Bill Wiese and his 23 minute trip to Hell. Bill was placed in Hell, not as a casual observer, but as someone who was not saved. He recounts all the horrid details with such precision that it captivates the listener from start to finish. If you haven't heard these testimonies, stop everything and hear them. They will permanently altered your outlook on life. My prayer life moved away from "Lord, bless me here and bless me there," to "Souls, Souls, Souls for Jesus" Jesus came to save us from unspeakable doom, and your love for Him will grow once you hear what He saved us from.

Old Post Jan-13-2008 15:41  United States
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Lebezniatnikov
Stupidity Annoys Me



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: DC

Didn't Dante already do this?


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Moongoose
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia
Re: 23 Minutes in Hell

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Originally posted by JClark
Jesus came to save us from unspeakable doom


Cant be that unspeakable if that guy is supposedly speaking about them.


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Renegade
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

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The Bible is real plain, we are all sinners, and whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved. Jesus said if you will confess me before men, publicly, then I will in turn; confess your name before my heavenly Father and the Holy angels. But if you deny me before men, I will deny you before my Father. I want to ask you to do something. If you've never publicly, in front of other people, if you've never publicly declared Jesus Christ as your Savior, and made Him the Lord of your life, or if you're unsure whether heaven is your eternal home, remember Jesus hung naked on a cross, in a market place, he hung there for you, He endured your shame.

If you'll pray this prayer from the depths of your heart, God will save your soul, and He'll give you an opportunity in the not to distant future for you to make it public. Pray with us, especially those who are in the congregation and know you should.

"God I believe in You. You are my Creator. I am a sinner. I sinned in many points, willfully, and unconsciously. I've fallen short. I've missed the mark. I'm stained with sin. Jesus I believe in You. You are the eternal Son of God. You're the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world, who takes away my sin. I believe You died on a cross. Shedding Your innocent blood for my guilty soul. I believe You were buried and on the third day You arose. You are alive forever more. I call You my Lord. I call You my Savior. I give You my life. I will love You, serve you for the rest of my days. I belong to You, the good parts, the bad parts, the sinful parts, all my plans, all my dreams, I give everything to you. Thy will be done in me. I believe I'm saved. Not by good works, but by faith, by trusting in You. In Jesus I pray. Amen."


Don't worry about being good. Don't worry about helping people. Don't worry about being compassionate. All that shit in the Bible about giving to the poor and putting the last first? Nothing to do with Christianity. Apparently all that true Christians are obliged to do is cast a magic spell invoking Jesus' name every now and then and you're in. No questions asked. Doesn't matter how many millions of Jews you might have killed, you're cool with Jesus now.

I want to know at what point this fantasy intersects with the Christianity of history. I want to know how someone can read the New Testement and come out of it with the idea that their only moral obligation in life is to say "Jesus" when called upon to do so - fuck the poor, fuck the peacemakers, fuck the meek. So long as my fat, white ass gets into heaven, what the hell do I care?

Evangelicals are completely beyond reason, completely beyond hope. They need their fucking heads slapped... hard. That might not work either, but damn, it sure would be satisfying.


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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

I really don't expect JClark to come back to discuss his own thread. Pity the spammer...(If he doesn't come back...)

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Halcyon+On+On
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Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast

Xtian propaganda.

//LOOK OUT!!!//


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Moongoose
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Celje, Slovenia

Well why should he, he registered to make this one single post, therefore doing his good deed for the day, ensuring that our souls are saved from eternal damnation since how can we all not drop down on our knees and start pleasing jesus ( ) after hearing that guys obviously genuine description of the worst 23 minutes in his life.


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Omega_M
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Ether

What a piece of shit fear monger.


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George Smiley
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: 9 Bywater Street, Chelsea, London

To be perfectly honest I think you'd get used to it after a while. And lets face it, if Heaven is full of whackos like the guy there, I think I know where I'd rather end up!

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josh4
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Registered: Dec 2003
Location: New York City

omg i feel an instant PDD classic coming on with this thread. Mr JClark you obviously don't realize where you've chosen to spread your message

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Krypton
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Texas

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
omg i feel an instant PDD classic coming on with this thread. Mr JClark you obviously don't realize where you've chosen to spread your message


Only if JClark weren't a spammer, and would stick around!! Sure, this could get deep, but I'm not expecting it too..

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tathi
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Registered: Jan 2003
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I remember when i participated in an Ayahuasca Ceremony in the Colombian Amazon the Shaman explained to me and the people of his church his journey through the highest levels of Hell, im sorry i cant go into it in detail because ive forgotten exactly what he described just the feelings it evoked, and my spanish was only ok at the time. this was after he performed a spiritual cleansing on this man who had come from another city who was sitting in front of everyone with his shirt off, the Shaman spat this black stuff on his back, the man started vomiting, lost consciousness, fell off the chair and started convulsing in his own vomit.

all in all it was an interesting experience

Old Post Jan-14-2008 05:11  Australia
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