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| bragi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tsunami One
if they released better stuff ppl would buy it. dont release crap and solve yoyur money issues. |
I fear this may be an overly simplistic view of the situation.
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
This leaves you with three things as an artist:
1) Who is going to find this art to be a treasure?
2) How many people?
3) How to get them to reimburse you?
Well, traditionally, the music companies have solved (2) and (3) by binding crap with a couple of pieces of treasure, and making it impossible to legally get one without the other. This really is just ignoring (1).
The internet, and free file sharing are the easiest solution to (1). You could release your songs onto the sharing networks, and just let word-of-mouth work for you. Or you could choose to be a leader, and accelerate the process. When you have a small group of fans (you'd only need 5-10 at the start), seed a community for them to populate as members. As they form a stronger community and bring more people in, word-of-mouth advertising should accelerate. This also gives you an opportunity to have a very close tie to your fan base for feedback.
You'll want to maximise (2), and the best way currently is to maintain and encourage a community, or even better, become and active member of an existing, strong community (to whit, TA). Avoid weak, disparate communities (such as ITM).
Solving (3) is the hardest part. You can count on a solid core of your fans to buy CDs/vinyl/albums etc. T-Shirts, signed memorabilia, and a zillion other trinkets is also obvious. There will be more, and better ways too, it's just that I haven't figured them out yet. This is the area that is ripest for innovation, and also has the biggest potential gains for leaders in the area.
Artists may feel that this really isn't their problem, and that the record companies are what they're signed up to to solve that stuff. Well, wake-up time people, the record companies are not going to solve this. Small, back-yard getups are the ones that will change the world, making the record companies irrelevant.
I know of no revolution against the status-quo that has ever been started by the people at the top of the heirachy. Remember that once, record companies were started and owned by the artists, as a way to increase their sales. It's just that that way is now obsolete, and nothing can change that.
It's up to the artists, and the communities around them to build a new way to get, and pay for art. I for one am willing to help, but I don't have all the answers, or a magic bullet to fix the problem. |
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| Chookie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tsunami One
if they released better stuff ppl would buy it. dont release crap and solve yoyur money issues. |
Yep, sometimes I hear live sets etc that are so good but the cd's released are crap.
Anyhow, my opinion is that everyone will d/l mp3's as long as they are free! Most of the stuff I d/l is live sets and a few odd songs to see if I like it, then if I do I buy it! (Oh and stuff I can't buy or find)
I think we pay too much for cd's etc, it's not us ripping off the producers and artists, it's the record companies! |
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| bragi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chookie
Yep, sometimes I hear live sets etc that are so good but the cd's released are crap.
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A very good point. As a consumer, I love live sets. But how am I able to reimburse the artist? Or who indeed should I be reimbursing?
If I have a liveset from AvB, should I pay him a royalty? Should he then distribute a portion of that royalty to all the artists of the songs he used?
One thing is for certain: It is completely impractical to expect me as a consumer to track down every track in a live set, and purchase it in normal retail channels. Imagine having to purchase 30 albums on CD, containing probably more than 250 songs I didn't actually want, and probably don't mcuh enjoy.
I doubt even a micro-payment model would work here.
What would work? I don't know. Probably some day soon someone will figure that out.
In fact, can anyone tell me what the current licensing requirements are for a DJ playing a public performance?
Are vinyls so expensive because we're purchasing a public performance license for the music? |
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| Tsunami One |
someone d'loads alive set -> listens to it @ home -> likes it alot -> when the artists comes to town the person slams down there $40 and see's them -> person d'loads some of there songs - > person likes them and buys their vinyls/cd's etc..
artist gets paid. they ebtter eb careful because they are biting the hand that feeds them . |
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| SQ-K |
^^^ exactly. there's no way in hell i'd have forked out to see armin 3 times in the last 6 months without mp3. and i'd have gone NOWHERE NEAR dumonde when they came out here if those little compressed bundles of digital goodness hadn't sparked my interest.
Buying records is a different matter though -- many (like me) won't buy a cd if they've got the mp3. Those artists who DJ are probably doing better out of this than those who don't. |
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