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| JulesPLees |
I dont get it.
I dont download MP3's...
But I still dont get it. |
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| Ves |
ah it's the ol' mp3 debate! I’ll attempt to get my disjointed thoughts across to you...
yes. I download mp3 singles, and I keep them. Sure, it may be considered morally wrong but I still do it. And I'm not going to pretend that I buy every single one of the singles that I download either. But it should be noted that I would never have heard of the works of artists like L-Vee if it weren’t for mp3.
It saddens me to hear that L-Vee is actually considering leaving the industry. But the fact that something like the spread of mp3 can actually push a person to leave the industry is even more depressing. Surely something like mp3 would not have a significant impact on a producer's way of life. I don't believe that mp3s and evil bastards like me can solely be blamed for crippling someone's income. And if the something like mp3 has the capacity to cripple one’s income so that they’re living in poverty or something like that, oh dear god. I’d have to question what kind of lifestyle these people were living in the first place...now that's really depressing.
I certainly don’t deny the fact that mp3s have a negative effect upon producers, financially (although not to the extent of crippling) and psychologically. Of course it would be discouraging to find your album available for download weeks before the release date, if something like the difference between someone having your work on mp3 or actually buying your work matters to you. But, you’d have to narrow-minded to deny the fact that mp3s have assisted producers with expanding their fan base and possibly even increased sales in some instances. It is evident just from communities like this that producers such as L-Vee would never have been heard of by most of his current fans if it weren’t for mp3.
Perhaps I’m just being idealistic, but I always thought that these artists were ‘in it for the music’, not for the cash. I thought these people would be concerned with creating a piece of work that has meaning; whether it be a reflection of themselves or perhaps something inspired by the world around them. I thought that maybe producers got their greatest reward from seeing their work being appreciated by other people, and witnessing the effect that it has on people, not from the cash they receive from sales. Maybe the money was just an added bonus that could be used to develop even greater works that could convey even more emotion to the masses...but I guess that’s a rather romanticised way to look at the industry, and everyone’s in it for the monetary benefit these days (or perhaps they always were)...ahh well, I suppose money really does make the world go round and I’m an evil music leeching .
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'Go King Kickdrum, Keep on Kickin!' |
hahah! werd.
gotta love that Sean Cusick column :) |
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| S_madis |
I wouldn't buy half the stuff I own, if I didn't listen to it first! the only exposure I have to this sort of music is via Mp3, since there is not a dominant trance radio station here in Sydney!
Anyways L-Vee rules, one of the best producers of all time under numerous alias! and as most of you have mentioned it would be a shame if something like Mp3s were to blame for the destruction of such an influential artist :( |
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| Itchy |
| guys ...... what you all fail to realise is that we (Australian's) are not responsible for this. We are a tiny minority compared to the rest of the trance loving world. Due to this fact that trance is more widespread overseas, we get to hear very little trance music for free, whether it be on the radio, TV or whatever compared to Europe or the states. Therefore we have no other viable option than to download. So don't beat yourselves up over it, it's not our problem, we can't solve it, point your fingers elsewhere...... ;) |
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| bragi |
Let me just pitch into the debate here and say, artists, try something new.
MP3 has come into existence. People trade mp3s for free. The quality is good enough for most people. There is no DRM. It's small enough to be moved around a network very quickly at very little cost. It's easy to share for free (excluding the cost of network access and bandwidth)
This is NOT going to change.
I'm sorry, but any protest like throwing your hands in the air and saying "I'm taking my bat and ball and going home" is just doomed to failure.
Work with the problem, not against it. Use the existence of these tools to enlarge your presence, and use them to create new and innovative ways of making money.
How to enlarge you presence? Build something akin to download.com, sourceforge, freshmeat, slashdot.
How to make money from these tools? Build a community, and build support within that community. Invent something new. Get people to pay for something other than just the music. Provide the community with something more, something different. What is that different thing? I don't have all the answers yet.
I'll give you an example of an industry that's doing just that... IT. Piracy has been a big problem for commercial producers since just after the inception of the first PC. No matter how they try to prevent copying, and no matter how many have said "No more! I Quit!", it goes on, the industry and piracy.
Yes, it has taken 40+ years to create some new and very powerful ideas to work with this situation, such as Open Source and Shareware.
Yes, for every attempt the IT industry has made at preventing copying, there has been an equal amount of successful attempts at breaking that control.
Music producers need to break from the hedgemoney of the current music industry. The industry is fighting a desperate front-on battle, which it will ultimately lose. You cannot prevent piracy, and in these days of increasing world-wide bandwidth, you can't even hope to slow it.
Consumers have not, and will not give up something that gives them free access to a resource. I feel the IT industry has shown that it is possible to work with that, and that enough people out there are honest enough for producers to still make quite a living (see iD software and Redhat for an example of this)
This is a brave new world. Embrace it as it is, because you won't change it by fighting it head-on. |
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