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Is trance dead in Australia?
 
gumble
Well, i think that you can see the state of Trance these days by looking at the Gatecrasher series. Black, Red, Wet are all classics, but the new ones, they just seem way too commercial with a few good tracks thrown in. I guess the first were commercial in their day as well, but they do have a true trance sound to them, and I still regulary listen to them.
Trancey Ash
Ok, but why does a DJ get hammered when changing?

People whinge that DJs dont change their sound, but when they do they whinge even more!

ok i know its not a good example but Oakenfold. He does not play his 97-98-99 style trance anymore. Sure he might drop a few classics in but he has moved on. He gets hammered for it. "Oh Oakenfold has lost his roots, he shold go back to his old style bla bla bla"

To tell you the truth I think good on him, for doing new things, not staying the same. He may be 'selling out' or whatever you want to brand him, but hes trying new things. I have to d/l another one of his sets to see what hes playin these days. Plus I know a few people who have seen him play (Helen and a mate in Singapore) and they said he was awsome.

So if people are gonna whinge that DJs dont progress their sound, when they do change it don't hack on the DJ. Go yourself instead!

:)
Tsunami One
Trancey ash it does go both ways. I think alot of the time ppl gripes are that when the superstar dj does change their style they dont pull it off. They either dont have the skill in mixing or knowledge of the music they play because theve just started playing that "genre".

it also hurts your ears when u listen to a set and the dj tries (which is great!) to mix in tracks that in no one go together or flow.
Hyperdimension
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Originally posted by gumble
Well, i think that you can see the state of Trance these days by looking at the Gatecrasher series. Black, Red, Wet are all classics, but the new ones, they just seem way too commercial with a few good tracks thrown in. I guess the first were commercial in their day as well, but they do have a true trance sound to them, and I still regulary listen to them.


I think your definition of "true trance" is the classic trance of 1998 and 1999, and I think Black, Red and Wet from around that time are the most commercial-sounding of the entire Gatecrasher series. By commercial-sounding I mean upfront and often "simple"-sounding.

I think as people started getting tired of the upfront stuff and wanted something different, they discovered trance that sounded darker, more progressive, and often more innovative, and out came Gatecrashers that sounded as such.

I do agree some of the recent trance is remanufactured, e.g. I think Gouryella - Ligaya is a rehash of Tenshi. But there are still a lot of other good new-sounding trance tracks.
Hyperdimension
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Originally posted by bassaholix
but if we drop in breaks and all that fancy smanchie... then its not trance ey?


I thought of Push - Strange world (2000 remake) as soon as I read that... there is breakbeat at the end of that track!

Even Gatecrasher Wet had breakbeat with Hybrid - Finished symphony, though I guess it's not really a trance track... even though Wet is one of the best examples of classic trance.

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