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Logic Bounce Before Mastering
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| DreambreaX |
Before mastering, we need -6db to -12db of the master volume level.
My song are all in volume automation
How to highlighted them all and reduce the volume by -6db by one step?
So the audio that I will bounce is -6db
I use Logic Pro 8. |
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| nortek |
| do u got automation on the master vol? that seems pretty odd to me. :eyes: |
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| Beyer |
You should add the "gain" plugin on all channels, and use that for
automating volume. That way youŽll have the mixer fader free for such
ajustments. Use the automation selecter tool to copy/paste the
automation over to the gain plugin (unless thereŽs an easier way I donŽt
know of :)) |
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| Mad for Brad |
| I would just export as is and adjust to whatever dBfs level you want after. It isn't going to affect much. Or just select all the automation points and bring it up or down. |
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| Atlantis-AR |
| quote: | Originally posted by DreambreaX
How to highlighted them all and reduce the volume by -6db by one step? |
Just pull the master volume back before rendering. You can of course adjust it at the beginning of the mastering chain afterwards (so long as you dither appropriately afterwards), but only if the export doesn't clip, and it'd still be a useless step if you can do it just as easily using the master fader before exporting. |
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| DreambreaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Atlantis-AR
Just pull the master volume back before rendering. You can of course adjust it at the beginning of the mastering chain afterwards (so long as you dither appropriately afterwards), but only if the export doesn't clip, and it'd still be a useless step if you can do it just as easily using the master fader before exporting. |
according to the audio technician, do not pull down the master volume cause it will affect to the sample/bit rate (which i dont really understand), he recommends me to highlighted ALL Channel, including the automation.
Its very easy to do this in Pro Tools, just highlighted themall, all automation and non automation volume will be lower.
but in Logic i dont know how to do it |
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| DreambreaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by nortek
do u got automation on the master vol? that seems pretty odd to me. :eyes: |
No, i dont have automation on the master vol. but most channel have it. |
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| nortek |
| then just lower the master? |
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| DreambreaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by nortek
then just lower the master? |
the mastering engineer doesnt recommend to lower the master.
btw i just realized in logic pro there is OUTput 1-2 beside the Master. they are the same. any one know the difference? |
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| Seandroid |
Logic has TONNES of headroom in each of your individual channels, they can enter the red as much as you like as long as your master isn't clipping.
You should be fine if you just lower the master volume. |
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| DJ RANN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Seandroid
Logic has TONNES of headroom in each of your individual channels, they can enter the red as much as you like as long as your master isn't clipping.
You should be fine if you just lower the master volume. |
At last some common sense!
It's clear from the other posts here that a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I don't know what the is going on recently but let's set some things straight:
Who the said mix to -6db to -12db? Absolute bull which keeps coming up.
And what's "db"?
You mean DBFS as in the reference for the scale in a digital environment.
In a 32 bit floating point system you have more headroom than you could ever use, so it's not about channel or internal clipping on tracks.
Secondly, if you're going to worry about these things, first make sure you have a calibrated monitor system, preferably to the K system. You're pissing in to the wind if you're worrying about things like this on an uncalibrated system, especially in a bedroom studio.
And no you shouldn't lower the master because that's your final point of reference for you gain staging and it will throw off your system calibration.
I actually can't be bothered to explain why any more, si I'll just simplify:
if you're that ing concerned about audio levels and quality etc, then don't bounce in the first place. PRINT YOUR MIX. By this I mean record the sum of all your tracks on to a separate stereo audio track or LR if you want.
So before this, just calibrate your system, mix as close to odbfs without clpiing as you can and leave the master alone.
Take that file, and if your mastering engineer really wants 6dbfs of headroom, just do a universal -6db gain change on that final file.
Job done. No please stop reading snippets from books which are mainly based on information relating to pro +4db analogue systems making commercial rock and pop albums. |
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