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| CONNERMAN2000 |
Does anybody actually have a success story related to this piece of ?
So I wish to show some initiation in job hunting, seeing as how I'm graduating and everything, and the first thing I decide to do is put my resume out there via some sort of 'job search' website. I choose this.
Since then, I've been called by at least 5 telemarketers, received various spam emails that are near identical to each other with only the company names changing claiming they are 'looking for new employees', and for some reason, there is always another step that this piece of didn't tell me to do.
'Now that you are done, sign up for CareerBuilder PRO, where your resume will be among the first seen by employers!'
So your saying that since I'm not Pro, my resume is thrown somewhere probably invisible to any company who actually is trying to find new workers? What the is the point of this? Stupid. |
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| LeopoldStotch |
do not trust whatever they say. a friend of mine said it best. they are nothing but headhunters to just fill holes. they do not care about your needs, but to fill quotas, and get the commission cut.
i say use other job search engines, such as your local employment ads, monster, indeed, dice, etc .... (can't think of any at the moment). also, do some research, and see what companies are out there in your city and are hiring. just remember. you're not the only one looking for a job. there are 1000 more people in the same situation as you. :D |
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| CONNERMAN2000 |
Truth. The job market absolutely sucks right now, so I've got working in my favor. Also, what makes, say, Monster better than CareerBuilder? Aren't they the same thing?
(I realize they aren't the same thing...I mean don't they serve the same purpose) |
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| elFreak |
you are never going to find a good job this way.
this is the lazy way to do things, the same way that 2 million people who are being lazy and half assed are doing as well.
You want a good job? Go straight to company websites and apply directly. Looking for work is really hard work if you want success at it, you are not going to get anywhere by hitting submit and waiting.
Start slow, try and ask yourself what you want to work in. Choose 10 companies that you think you would like to work for in this domain. Check their website for employment and even if they don't have anything up, send in a resume to the hr/people dept (usually can be found on the website) and include a cover letter. Show a little initiative and it could pay off.
Keep doing this and only the people you want to call you will, and all the you don't want won't.
I always chuckle at people that complain that they have no jobs because of the "stupid job sites".
it ain't them.;) |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
you are never going to find a good job this way. |
I like some of your advice, but this is the biggest lie ever. I know many people who have found good paying jobs through the internet. That is not to say that you shouldn't use other means, but the internet is not a failboat for finding jobs either. |
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| Lebezniatnikov |
Jay's on point. The only thing I'll add is that there are some career-specific sites that aggregate job postings or employers in a given field - these are good options if you know exactly what you want. The post-your-resume-and-wait sites aren't likely to give you anything substantive.
As an example, for international development NGO's:
http://www.interaction.org/members/#memberlist |
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| elFreak |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
I like some of your advice, but this is the biggest lie ever. I know many people who have found good paying jobs through the internet. That is not to say that you shouldn't use other means, but the internet is not a failboat for finding jobs either. |
don't you work in a call lab or something?;) No offense man, but if you ever want a better job than that, you are either going to have to know someone or look in different places then every other ing guy in the world does.
did you see what i wrote ben? I am telling him to use the internet for now, just not in a ing lame and lazy way. I just got a better job this week and gave my notice to my current job. I didn't find it on Monster, and even if i had a pretty decent job i still pounded the pavement to see if i could not do better.
To the OP, i am curious, what degree are you geting and what do you honestly expect your first job to be like? |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
don't you work in a call lab or something?;) No offense man, but if you ever want a better job than that, you are either going to have to know someone or look in different places then every other ing guy in the world does.
did you see what i wrote ben? I am telling him to use the internet for now, just not in a ing lame and lazy way. I just got a better job this week and gave my notice to my current job. I didn't find it on Monster, and even if i had a pretty decent job i still pounded the pavement to see if i could not do better.
To the OP, i am curious, what degree are you geting and what do you honestly expect your first job to be like? |
Yeah, and I didn't get my job through the internet either. I did have a couple offers for ones I found via the internet, but the pay was $10/hr.
Also, I took what I had to, in order to get working again. I wasn't in a good position and I was out of options at the time. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| Also, yes I did read your post Jay. You flat out said, the internet = failboat for jobs. Which is flat out wrong. It isn't the holy grail either, but calling the internet the failboat for job search is just plain dumb. |
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| elFreak |
please show me the exact quote ben.
last time i checked "go straight to the company website...", does not infer internet = failboat.
reading comprehension, work on it.
click submit and wait = failboat.
if it wasn't you would have a better job. |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by elFreak
you are never going to find a good job this way.
this is the lazy way to do things, the same way that 2 million people who are being lazy and half assed are doing as well. |
That. While you did say go to straight to the company websites, you are already failing to realize that MANY of the legit companies that DO look for people on monster, careerbuilder, etc type sites have their company name confidential. So, how the you supposed to go to their website?
FFS Jay, I am not disagreeing with your other points, but you just don't see this sometimes. Remember my whole thing about Craigslist a year ago? Same ing situation.
Also, this was why I listed www.indeed.com since it is a search aggregate and it actually shows direct company listings. I saw many companies like BEHR, Home Depot, etc. |
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