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| Rememberence_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by jonas
Just another scared American? Right. You hit the nail on the head. I have locks, I have an alarm. I was a cop and know that response times to burglary in progress are not capable of deterring a situation. Scared? Maybe for the safety of my family. So I will do what is necessary.
You preach academically. But until you have been put in harms way, you have no right to make comments as reckless as this. A baseball bat is no match for someone pointing the barrel of a gun at you. It's easy to take the passive stance when trying to sound like the rational liberal with nothing to reference other than the biased rhetoric of a college professor.
I hate action movies because of the sensationalism associated with killing. I take no pleasure or think I'm a badass because of it. But you come into my home or endanger those dearest to me, you will regret such an engagement.
Edit-I have been in harms way, BTW, countless times as a police office and also having it breach my home. So I have the right and experience to argue either side of this point. |
I see where you're coming from and I respect the experience you have with the sour side of the law. Wanting to protect your family is also an admirable thing and makes perfect sense. And yes we're both biased. Here I am having never been involved in the you have experienced as an ex cop, and here you are knowing those specific aspects of society in a pretty intimate manner.
I would like to point out that I come from a society where people stepped up and agreed, as a people, to revoke some of the liberty of legal gun possession. This is important to me because it shows that there are other avenues for protecting your family than throwing guns into the mix. It also shows that people are willing to democratically vote to restrict such a 'right' to bare arms. The Australian govt issued a firearms buyback policy in '96 and as a result made it easier for people to transition to a society of rigorous enforcement of gun licenses. Semi-automatic weapons and pump action rifles/shotguns were banned. Over 700,000 weapons were subsequently destroyed. I think it was a gallant effort fueled by a forward-thinking, selfless mindset.
| quote: | Originally posted by Ph03n1x
Jeez, it's a metaphor! |
And it's misused. |
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| Ph03n1x |
| quote: | | I would like to point out that I come from a society where people stepped up and agreed, as a people, to revoke some of the liberty of legal gun possession. This is important to me because it shows that there are other avenues for protecting your family than throwing guns into the mix. It also shows that people are willing to democratically vote to restrict such a 'right' to bare arms. The Australian govt issued a firearms buyback policy in '96 and as a result made it easier for people to transition to a society of rigorous enforcement of gun licenses. Semi-automatic weapons and pump action rifles/shotguns were banned. Over 700,000 weapons were subsequently destroyed. I think it was a gallant effort fueled by a forward-thinking, selfless mindset. |
The UK did the same thing. Guess what? The UK and Australia still have illegal guns.
I understand this concept may be difficult to accept. You're from Australia.
Our Supreme court just agreed that it is a LAW-ABIDING Citizens' right to keep and bear arms, in self-defense.
GOD BLESS AMERICA! |
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| jonas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rememberence_
I would like to point out that I come from a society where people stepped up and agreed, as a people, to revoke some of the liberty of legal gun possession. This is important to me because it shows that there are other avenues for protecting your family than throwing guns into the mix. It also shows that people are willing to democratically vote to restrict such a 'right' to bare arms. The Australian govt issued a firearms buyback policy in '96 and as a result made it easier for people to transition to a society of rigorous enforcement of gun licenses. Semi-automatic weapons and pump action rifles/shotguns were banned. Over 700,000 weapons were subsequently destroyed. I think it was a gallant effort fueled by a forward-thinking, selfless mindset.
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The other side of my experience let's me agree with this policy 100% if it could work. Unfortunately, America has a much more difficult task in thwarting gun smuggling. So this would most likely not work. The criminal element in the US is such a force that gun control is a losing battle. Until law enforcement is given the authority to work as a paramilitary agency instead of subscribing to the current 'community policing', this won't work. As my commander used to tell us before every shift, 'Stay sharp. They're better armed than you are'. |
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| architect1803 |
I take it we're all going as a group to the raffle.
:rolleyes: |
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| Ph03n1x |
One last thought:
Guns are not the problem, people are.
It is in our nature to destroy ourselves and each other. Once we have all personally decided to respect and cherish life, then there will be no need for guns, or any other tools of war. Then I will train in martial arts for the sport and exercise, not the need to protect myself. |
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