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Holding Infinity - Never Come Back (Original Mix)
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| BOOsTER |
DOWNLOAD HERE
give it a listen please :) ... inspired by this lovely girl ...
and also! I seem to have got out of my writer's block :-)
have a great listen :) |
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| godsendxd |
| Hey mate loved it really nice very techy might wanna add alittle more reverb to some of those sounds would sound great |
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| BOOsTER |
Hey mate, thanks.
I already thought I would do another version with a bit more...space to it and such...
also I keep thinking about raising the tempo up a bit, still unsure, I will surely report back, when I get something interesting :) thanks for listening so far :) and please remind me if you have something of yours you would like me to check B-) |
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| derail |
Hey there - here are my thoughts on this track, from a few different angles. Good luck with it!
FREQUENCY ANALYSIS
The song is very hot in the 150 to 350Hz region (compared to a ballpark of 10 trance tracks which to my ears have excellent production values). The lead (chords) sound has a lot of volume in this range - cut it back here to give other instruments some space. Don't cut it entirely, but potentially lowering this region by up to 5 dBs could really help the overall sound of the mix. I'm not sure the bass and kick sounds are optimal for this region either - in any case, you can come up with a more effective kick/bass combination which locks together well.
The song would also benefit from small, wide boosts around 2300 and 8500 Hz - 8500 especially helps bring out the clarity in the lead sound (somewhere around 1.5 to 3 dBs of boost, depending on personal taste)
SOUNDS
The kick has nice low end, but I'm not sure it's totally effective in this song - but it's hard to say, since it doesn't really fit well with the bass sound. With a different bass sound it may work, but I'd try a sample with more defined high end, this one's kind of "goa trance" sounding (that's just my personal viewpoint, the sound of goa may have changed considerably in the last few years...)
The bass sound is very dry, bland, doesn't fit well with the kick. If using a dry sound, at least make the bassline interesting rather than having (basically) an offbeat bassline. The kick doesn't have much high end, so potentially it could be paired with a bass that also doesn't have much high end (or you could have high end on both). The low end overall doesn't add much to the song - it totally depends what you want to do with this song. In it's current form there's no drive, it wouldn't get a dancefloor moving, but potentially that's not what you're going for here. If you are looking for drive, then the low end needs more movement, more groove - look into rolling basslines and potentially sidechain compressing your bass usng the kick as a trigger (you may already be doing this - it's hard to tell with an offbeat bass pattern)
The hihat and clap sound good, nice and clear.
The lead sound playing the chords is nice.
There are some other nice, defined lead patterns playing. They're fine, could use more effects perhaps.
Sounds that are missing:
Atmospheric effects/ transitions - listen to your favourite trance songs, see what's happening in the background.
Potentially a wide pad would help give the song a greater sense of depth?
More rhythmic percussive elements - currently I can only hear the hihat and clap(and crashes from time to time).
THE JOURNEY
This song spends huge amounts of time at the same energy level. At the start, it's not much more than a kick and offbeat bass (with some hihats, clap and a few lead patterns over the top) for ages, with no energy flowing (building up or down). The transitions from one section to the next aren't announced - suddenly an element drops out, then an element drops in, without warning. To a large degree it feels like the elements are looping for the whole song, then they've been cut out here and there to introduce some variation, without actually seeing it as a complete, meaningful journey.
Choosing sections of the song - the transition at 1:31 - very sudden, no anticipation before it. The breakdown doesn't build up or down, it has the chords playing at a constant level throughout. At 2:26 the song has strange panning which I just found annoying. The vocal sample at 2:31 didn't come through clearly, I couldn't understand the words. At 3:35 once again, there is a sudden change.
Trance is basically about saying the same thing over and over again, for 6 to 9 minutes. If there isn't an incredible amount of movement, of variation, of energy flowing, then it gets incredibly boring incredibly quickly. I would recommend taking a pad of paper and pen and listening to a lot of your favourite trance songs. Stop it every four bars or so and write down everything that's happening. Write down how the song moves from one section to the next and what the producer has done to make that transition effective - there are many ways to create effective transitions. When I work out my song's journeys, I get away from the computer and work out what I want to say, what I want to bring across, how I want to move from one section to the next. This allows me to see the song as a complete journey rather than a bunch of loops.
With the style of trance you seem to be going for here - a gated chord/stab progression for the main theme rather than a monophonic lead melody - the sense of depth/space is arguably more important than if you had a catchy melody at centre stage attracting the listener's attention. It is critical that all the sounds fit together extremely well and that there is a lot of depth to the track - a pleasing balance between dry sounds up front and wide, atmospheric sounds at the back. The main thing to focus on when putting a song together is getting sounds which fit well together. When I create a song, I spend the first two or so hours finding a combination of sounds that works well together. No eq, no effects, nothing. Just basic sounds, setting the levels so the mix sounds pretty good already. Then I commit to the sounds, lock them down to audio and use eq and effects to take them up another notch. But I don't go back a few hours later and try out a different lead sound, for example. Get your basic sounds working together, lock them down and move on. It really helps to have quality sound sources, and more important still to know those sound sources well, and how they fit in with your personal production style. A synth may have an awesome bass sound when played in isolation, but it may be completely wrong for your production style and therefore useless for you. Experience will help a great deal with this.
OVERALL
There are some good sounds happening here (the lead sounds are nice). There are some which could be changed, as well as having the notes they're playing changed (the main bass sound). The chord progression sounds fine, it works well. The song does need more depth - heavily reverbed pads or atmospherics could work really well. The main thing though, is clearly working out what you're bringing to the listener. Listen to your favourite tracks and note in detail as much as you can about everything you're hearing. Focus on their bass sounds - are they mono? What pattern is the bass playing? Are there any delays on it, is there any room reverb? Does it have much high end to it? If not, does it sound effective in the context of the mix? Why does it sound effective?
You can do that for every single element in a song. You can run through the song just listening to how much of the main reverb is on each element and why the sense of depth works effectively. You can focus just on how sections transition from one to the next. You can focus on how loud the delays are in the left and right speakers and how they're eq'd, whether they have any other effects (like chorus) on them. You can focus on filter movements throughout the song. Everything you want to know about making quality trance is in your trance collection, as long as you're willing to pay a lot of attention to what is going on in them. It takes practice, but as time passes your ears will feel like they're a thousand times bigger. You'll be able to hear an incredible amount of what's going on, even inside a very complex mix.
Stick with it. You've made good progress. Keep going and you'll make amazing music!
Fabian |
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| cybernetica |
I guess now I have no chance against derail :D
but nice production! Bass and kick seem clear and loud.
Great job on the percs, but there could be a little more going on with the hats. (I know I'm a bitch about that :P)
I think the stuttering gate like synth gets very high and that stresses my ears a little.
otherwise good layering, maybe a bit more ups and downs would help the track, I dont know.
Good track, keep it up! |
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| BOOsTER |
derail: hmmm, well your review was kinda hard to swallow really :> oh well, you seemt to have picked up many of my weaknesses, which hopefully I will be able to remove some time later.
Now having avoided listening to the song I can only agree with you, thanks for your review.
cybernetica: thanks mate :) |
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