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| mahalliner |
| quote: | Originally posted by ThaRegger
the "white outs" were legendary |
That they were. Those days were awesome. I was so young back then! |
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| TCB |
ill just laugh at all the negative people when they do comeback and are doing well and saying "ah yes i knew theyd come back, i had faith"
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i do not think the NHL with shrink lol. :haha: |
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| DjCommisad |
The league did expand too fast, too rapidly. I'm surprised the league is still around with the way Bettman runs it, and I've been saying that for years. He expands and allows teams to move from markets that (at the time) could not afford to keep teams to markets that are/were indifferent about welcoming a team. A handful of people actually cared when Carolina won the cup. Nashville has an avg. of 13,000 seats filled. Hell, during the PLAYOFFS this year, I saw more empty seats during Anaheim's 5-1 victory over Vancouver than full seats. He's forever pissed off and snubbed ESPN (who barely cover the cup final let alone anything but NHL wise) and gave over broadcasting rights to a network that 1 bar out of 10 in LA gets.
As for Winnipeg, I never said I don't want to see a team there. There's indication that there would be fan support, but the NHL is convinced there would not be enough support, enough population and fan support to sufficiently fill the arena to make it affordable to sustain a team there. They feel there is not enough corporate headquarts in the area to fill the box seats which are a huge portion of team income. I'd love to see a team back in Winnipeg. I'm sad it ever left there and went to Phoenix. Hell, one of US' largest cities could care less about the coyotes.
The league expanded too fast into markets that didn't even want teams or knew what hockey is, and still don't. They watered down the talent pools which if not for the increased capabilities of teams to scout, draft, train, condition and coach, we'd have a lot more pathetic teams out there filled with players that 10 years ago would have no business playing in the league. Putting a team in Vegas is a joke. People don't go to Vegas to watch hockey, they go to gamble (ok, that's a poor assumption but come on), and those living there could probably care about hockey as much as any other desert city.. oh what's that, Phoenix is a desert city, one with a huge population advantage yet little fan support?
I don't know if they need another southern ontario team (toronto and ottawa) but I don't want to see a talented team like Nashville suffer too long if the fans don't start supporting their team. Quebec won't get a team, sorry. There's no support for it from the government or fans enough to be bothered. I'd like to see two american teams move to winnipeg and quebec, but that won't happen. sorry guys. |
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| TCB |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjCommisad
As for Winnipeg, I never said I don't want to see a team there. There's indication that there would be fan support, but the NHL is convinced there would not be enough support, enough population and fan support to sufficiently fill the arena to make it affordable to sustain a team there. They feel there is not enough corporate headquarts in the area to fill the box seats which are a huge portion of team income. I'd love to see a team back in Winnipeg. I'm sad it ever left there and went to Phoenix. Hell, one of US' largest cities could care less about the coyotes.
I don't know if they need another southern ontario team (toronto and ottawa) but I don't want to see a talented team like Nashville suffer too long if the fans don't start supporting their team. Quebec won't get a team, sorry. There's no support for it from the government or fans enough to be bothered. I'd like to see two american teams move to winnipeg and quebec, but that won't happen. sorry guys. |
did you even read what i wrote??
listen to that interview for gods sake. slaps head. go back up 10 posts. |
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| DjCommisad |
| quote: | Originally posted by TCB
did you even read what i wrote??
listen to that interview for gods sake. slaps head. go back up 10 posts. |
i saw there was an interview posted, but i'm too lazy to listen to it :D <3
*edit*
okay now i watched it. you took what i said out of context in the sense that while i by no means know everything there is to know, and what i do know is mostly second hand information, i've come to the understanding that even without gary bettman saying it in that interview, the nhl is not looking to relocate teams or expand at this point, and even if it did, canadian locations are not their primary target. while some american markets the nhl has come to have not supported their teams as enthusiastically as they had predicted or hoped, i'm still under the impression if any team did move or any expansion markets were to be considered, they would be american. he's being diplomatic by saying "if we were to have a team in canada again it'd be winnipeg (or quebec)" as there are, offhand (and i'm sure they've done some research into it, but not their 'due diligence') able to support teams again economically.
the sale will take several weeks to finalize as the nhl commitee has final sale on pending sales, and by the time that's done, there won't be any time left in the 6 week window remaining to have the board properly evaluate any proposal by jim basille to relocate the team. it's also well rumored that if he does acquire the team, which hinges on his desire to relocate the predators imo (just like the penguins in which the nhl flat out said no and that's rumored to be why he withdrew his bid to buy them), the nhl likely wouldn't let him relocate the team this year.
i still say, bring back the jets, bring back the nordiques, but take your pick at any number of 'rumored' (is that a better way of putting it?) reasons as to why it'd be unfortunately unlikely to happen. :( |
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