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US loses fourth helicopter in less than two weeks (pg. 8)
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| Cyrus King |
i think this is a new strategy that the insurgency is beginning to use.
With their low grade missiles, they are able to down hundred million dollar helicopters.
We will be seeing alot more of this happening. They are targetting the skies now. |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Nothing to do with Americans/British? lol
Fighting over stupid ?would they be fighting for this "stupid " if the Americans didnt invade them?
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In case you have not noticed, the majority of the violence caused by criminal insurgents in Iraq is against civilians, not the US Military. The US Military has had 2654 soldiers killed since the capture of Hussein. Most respectable estimates of civilians killed in Iraq are at least 60,000. Let me tell you, with our smart bombs and limited rules of engagement, its not us doing that killing. Its Iraqis killing other Iraqis.
Ignoring the current conflict in Iraq, please detail for me, conflict by conflict, how the Americans/British are responsible for the following conflicts in the middle east:
April 1967 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Ratqa, Kuwait
March 1973 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Sameta, Kuwait
1975-1990 Lebanese Civil War
1976 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Sameta, Kuwait
1977 The Libya-Egypt 4 day war
1980 Chadian-Libyan conflict
1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War
1990-1991 The invasion of Kuwait by Iraq (Gulf War)
I won't bother to list any of the attacks on Israel by Arab nations because I'm sure the response would be something like 'the state of Israel is an American puppet government and even though 'Insert Arab Country Here' attacked them they had it coming just because they exist' and the attacking country always got their asses handed to them by Israel anyway so who cares.
I look forward to your response, although I'm sure it will be just more of the same brainwashed propaganda type responses that you typically seem to give. |
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| Omega_M |
| I fail to understand how a slow moving low flying helicopter is not a sitting duck for someone who's down on the ground taking an aim and firing inexpensive missiles at the thing. |
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| Omega_M |
Disturbing video to say the least. The background music adds to the deadly chill factor. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
In case you have not noticed, the majority of the violence caused by criminal insurgents in Iraq is against civilians, not the US Military. The US Military has had 2654 soldiers killed since the capture of Hussein. Most respectable estimates of civilians killed in Iraq are at least 60,000. Let me tell you, with our smart bombs and limited rules of engagement, its not us doing that killing. Its Iraqis killing other Iraqis.
Ignoring the current conflict in Iraq, please detail for me, conflict by conflict, how the Americans/British are responsible for the following conflicts in the middle east:
April 1967 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Ratqa, Kuwait
March 1973 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Sameta, Kuwait
1975-1990 Lebanese Civil War
1976 Iraq-Kuwait conflict in Al-Sameta, Kuwait
1977 The Libya-Egypt 4 day war
1980 Chadian-Libyan conflict
1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War
1990-1991 The invasion of Kuwait by Iraq (Gulf War)
I won't bother to list any of the attacks on Israel by Arab nations because I'm sure the response would be something like 'the state of Israel is an American puppet government and even though 'Insert Arab Country Here' attacked them they had it coming just because they exist' and the attacking country always got their asses handed to them by Israel anyway so who cares.
I look forward to your response, although I'm sure it will be just more of the same brainwashed propaganda type responses that you typically seem to give. |
You are a simpleton and look at things in black and white terms.
The US Invaded Iraq 3 times. They have CAUSED all of this killing on killing between civilians.
The US is responsible for the mess and the death that has resulted becuase of their greed.
Israel is a pariah state that WIPED PALESTINE OFF THE MAP in 1948. So please shut the up you stupid american |
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| Omega_M |
This has got nothing to do with a video which shows the downing of an apache. And btw, there's one more related apache video where they catch an iraqi couple having sex. |
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| XaNaX |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
You are a simpleton and look at things in black and white terms.
The US Invaded Iraq 3 times. They have CAUSED all of this killing on killing between civilians.
The US is responsible for the mess and the death that has resulted becuase of their greed.
Israel is a pariah state that WIPED PALESTINE OFF THE MAP in 1948. So please shut the up you stupid american
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Maybe you are to brainwashed to remember that the first Gulf War was caused by the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and Iraq's posturing that they could also invade Saudi Arabia. Thank you for highlighting this, yet another fantastic example of Arab on Arab violence that you have somehow come to believe is "caused" by America.
The second Gulf War was to liberate Iraq from its opressive dictatorship. While I support our President and our Military, I do think we are foolish to think we can impose the value of freedom on other people. There is a segment of the population in Iraq that does not care about rights, liberty, and freedom. All they care about is "I'm Sunni and you are Shia so I must kill you". Under Saddam these people could not freely kill each other because of his oppressive government. Now that he is gone, its a free for all. So I guess we could be responsible in that way, I guess we should have just left the murderous dictator in charge of the country. The bottom line though is that there are no American soldiers forcing the Arab on Arab violence in Iraq to happen, blame who you want, but they ARE responsible for their own actions.
I'm not sure when the third time we invaded Iraq was, maybe you can help me with that.
I do look forward to the day when alternative fuel sources are developed. Then we will no longer need their oil and we can leave that part of the world to freely kill each other if thats what they want to do.
And as for your comment on Israel, thats exactly what I expected. And don't forget that the Arabs started that war that resulted in Palestine getting wiped off the map. They have nobody to blame but themselves for that. |
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| Cyrus King |
I will rip you up now.
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
Maybe you are to brainwashed to remember that the first Gulf War was caused by the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and Iraq's posturing that they could also invade Saudi Arabia. Thank you for highlighting this, yet another fantastic example of Arab on Arab violence that you have somehow come to believe is "caused" by America. |
The first gulf war was "caused" by Iraq invading Kuwait? Why did AMERICA get involved in that? How did Iraq CAUSE America to bomb the living out of Iraq? Did Iraq invade the US?
No. However, it did invade what the US thinks they own.. which is Arab oil.
Saudi Arabia was going to be invaded by Iraq? Are you going to fall for the fake satellite photos which were debunked by Russian intelligence claiming that Iraqi forces were ammassing on the Saudi border ready to invade?? Or are you going to believe that those satellite pictures (which ended up being sand dunes) were real 16 years later.
What a joke!!! lol
| quote: | | The second Gulf War was to liberate Iraq from its opressive dictatorship. |
Excuse me? I thought it was becuase he had Weapons of Mass Destruction? Or are you going to make up more excuses since these lies just dont add up?
You want to liberate Iraq from an oppressive dictator which you guys supported in the 80's and helped out militarily to bomb Iran, yet when he wants to control someone elses oil, he its time to "liberate"
Why dont you liberate the Saudi Arabian people??? That is just as oppressive as saddam.
| quote: | | While I support our President and our Military, I do think we are foolish to think we can impose the value of freedom on other people. There is a segment of the population in Iraq that does not care about rights, liberty, and freedom. |
No. There is a segment of society, well, most of the iraqi people to be exact - that dont WANT TO BE OCCUPIED BY IMPERIALISTS WHO WANT TO CONTROL THEIR OIL!!!!!
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All they care about is "I'm Sunni and you are Shia so I must kill you". Under Saddam these people could not freely kill each other because of his oppressive government. Now that he is gone, its a free for all. |
No no little child. Its more complex than that. There are people in different parts of the world that need to control this playground of black gold beneath them. Iran wants more control of its region becuase it fears the invasions of their neighbors may replay on their soil, and the Americans want to control oil rich countries by either occupying them or being bed buddies with their puppet installed leaders... kinda like Saddam was.
Iraq is a battle ground for power between a very strong Iran and a losing America. You people got yourself in a hell of a mess.
| quote: | | So I guess we could be responsible in that way, I guess we should have just left the murderous dictator in charge of the country. The bottom line though is that there are no American soldiers forcing the Arab on Arab violence in Iraq to happen, blame who you want, but they ARE responsible for their own actions. |
How did saddam become a murderous dictator?? Who supported him? Who sold him Chemical weapons that he used on the kurds while looking the other way, and then sold him more???
America's minions (the Sunni alliance) are helping out with the insurgency too. You dont think Suadi Arabia is helping cause civil strife in IRaq too? You make it sound like these people just got up and said "HEY.. LETS ALL KILL EACH OTHER BECUASE WE ARE CRAZY MUSLIMS!!"
America has caused this mess. They made a chaotic environment where this tension is fueled.
More people in Iraq wish Saddam was still in power. Its the lesser of two evils.
| quote: | I'm not sure when the third time we invaded Iraq was, maybe you can help me with that.
I do look forward to the day when alternative fuel sources are developed. Then we will no longer need their oil and we can leave that part of the world to freely kill each other if thats what they want to do. |
The second time they invaded, which wasnt as destructive as the first and third time, was under Clinton,, it was in 1998.
Second, its so nice to see that you are actually admitting to meddling with the middle east becuase of the oil. But its said that you cant see the contradiction in your post.
You say that you went into Iraq to liberate the people, yet you admit that OIL is the main factor why America is in the middle east and that you hope different energy sources can become available so that you can leave and that way everyone can kill themselves.
Its sad. deep down inside you know why the US invaded, but cant come to terms with how corrupt and greedy your government is.
BUSH AND HIS SUCKERS |
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| XaNaX |
You can believe all that 'America is evil they want to control the world and all its riches' propaganda bull if you want. The middle east is full of people that have been fed that crap and they believe it all like a bunch of brainwashed yes men. We get involved in the middle east for only a few reasons:
1. To protect an attacked ally
2. To act as the world's policeman because any time a two bit piss ant nutjob like Saddam decides to do something crazy the rest of the world has no nuts and they come running to us like schoolchildren to get us to stop the big bully from harassing the other kids on the playground.
3. To make sure the world's supply of oil is not disrupted by some crazy
Believe me if we wanted to be imperialists and control the world we could do that easily. There is not another country in the world that we could not nuke the out of if all we really wanted to do was gain more power and make everyone our slaves.
But guess what, we don't want your ty little countries or we would have taken them already. But you just keep getting spoon fed that propaganda and nod your head like a good little robot and keep chanting the party line 'down with America'.
We would love to completely withdraw from Iraq you ing idiot but we cannot do that while people there continue to blow each other up. So if you think killing each other is going to some how hurt America then by all means go for it. Everyone wants America's help when they are in trouble but then once the heat is off all they do is criticise everything we do. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by XaNaX
You can believe all that 'America is evil they want to control the world and all its riches' propaganda bull if you want. The middle east is full of people that have been fed that crap and they believe it all like a bunch of brainwashed yes men. We get involved in the middle east for only a few reasons:
1. To protect an attacked ally
2. To act as the world's policeman because any time a two bit piss ant nutjob like Saddam decides to do something crazy the rest of the world has no nuts and they come running to us like schoolchildren to get us to stop the big bully from harassing the other kids on the playground.
3. To make sure the world's supply of oil is not disrupted by some crazy
Believe me if we wanted to be imperialists and control the world we could do that easily. There is not another country in the world that we could not nuke the out of if all we really wanted to do was gain more power and make everyone our slaves.
But guess what, we don't want your ty little countries or we would have taken them already. But you just keep getting spoon fed that propaganda and nod your head like a good little robot and keep chanting the party line 'down with America'.
We would love to completely withdraw from Iraq you ing idiot but we cannot do that while people there continue to blow each other up. So if you think killing each other is going to some how hurt America then by all means go for it. Everyone wants America's help when they are in trouble but then once the heat is off all they do is criticise everything we do. |
"good little Robot"
hahahahhahaha
and youre the one who thinks America is there to "protect" its ally's and "liberate" iraq?
Take Bill O'Reilly's out of your mouth.. your chocking on his cum |
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| Wicked Neo |
Right, this thread is closed and links removed (in progress) for one simple reason.
The thread starter has previously posted this kind of video before and it only portrays a glorified view on the loss of american lives from an extremist stand point.
it is not closed because its american lives and american armourment being shot, it is closed for the way it's portrayed and that only.
The same would apply if someone posted a video of iraqi people / soldiers being killed and that was portrayed in a glorified manner |
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