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| DJ_Ballistic |
maybe you don't understand why the catholic church opposes condoms....because they believe in abstaining from sex until married
so im pretty sure they're not just telling these people not to wear condoms, but to also not have sex
Therefore by tubby's logic if people are just doing as they are taught and not using condoms coz the church is against it, then they are not having sex period and thus also not spreading aids. So i don't get how you liken that to petrol fires. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
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Tomorrow's BBC Panorama programme carries an interview with a Catholic woman in Uganda who has chosen to sleep unprotected with her infected husband: "We won't go to heaven if we use condoms," she explains. Asked if the woman made the right choice, the Archbishop of Kampala, Cardinal Emmanuel Wamala, replies: "If it is wrong to use the condom, then she has made the right choice." Even if it costs her her life? "Yes," replies the cardinal. "That is a harsh teaching," the reporter responds. |
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/s...1247745,00.html
in any case, churches arent very good at preventing "immoral" behaviour. people's "vices" will almost always over rule the teachings of some moral authority. by denouncing condom usage the church creates an environment where condoms arent as available.
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By its refusal to deal with human realities, the church has muffled its own prophetic voice on Aids, and encouraged the conclusion that Christian teaching that can only be upheld at the cost of African lives does not deserve that name. |
and in any case, is anyone going to discuss the original post? what do people think about the church with policies like this?
| quote: | | SEXUALLY-assaulted women who seek help at Catholic-controlled hospitals cannot be referred to rape crisis centres that supply morning-after pills, under church policy. |
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| tubby |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic
maybe you don't understand why the catholic church opposes condoms....because they believe in abstaining from sex until married
so im pretty sure they're not just telling these people not to wear condoms, but to also not have sex
Therefore by tubby's logic if people are just doing as they are taught and not using condoms coz the church is against it, then they are not having sex period and thus also not spreading aids. So i don't get how you liken that to petrol fires. |
catholic church is against all forms of birth control, whether married or not. with 40+% infection rates, it is well out of control, and for the church to try to prevent one of the most useful methods of preventing transmission is just irresponsible.
Do you really think this merciful god thinks that this is better than birth control? |
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| Lilith |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic
Therefore by tubby's logic if people are just doing as they are taught and not using condoms coz the church is against it, then they are not having sex period and thus also not spreading aids. So i don't get how you liken that to petrol fires. |
This isn't about AIDS control, its about unwanted pregnancies due to sexual assault.
Something that isn't a volantary act or something the church endorses either
Pull your head out of lala land about AIDS, premarital sex, god and the bible and get with the argument, how can that be any more clear?
Really! :rolleyes:
At it's simplest, its a gross neglect of someone who'll once the shock wears off will be in some kind of traumatised state, possibly pregnant and here comes the church medic, pat on the head, bandaid and out the door.
Carrying something like that to term will ruin a persons life, they'll hate the kid as a reminder of what happened to them and I think if forced to do the same, I'd probably off myself and thats not something I say lightly. |
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| Deeman |
LOL at 'Catholic controlled hospitals' WTF is that? Do you have to carry an identity card or something to be admitted? hahahaha!
| quote: | | "Sally Cockburn said she was "blown out of the water" |
lol!!!!
Seriously this is so ridiculous it's not even worth commenting about! |
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| AnitA |
Spit on that church policy, God himself would not even allow such a policy.
EVERYONE is EQUAL. |
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| Philby |
| quote: | Originally posted by AnitA
EVERYONE is EQUAL. |
but some are more equal than others ;) |
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