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pkcRAISTLIN
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EVERY Senate committee will have a Coalition chairman under an audacious Howard Government plan to centralise executive power.

The Government's proposal will gut the Senate inquiry structure, allowing it to avoid embarrassing scrutiny of legislation and political controversies such as the children overboard scandal.
Announced last night by Finance Minister Nick Minchin, the plan represents the most assertive use of the Government's Senate majority since it gained control a year ago.

Opposition Leader Kim Beazley said today the Government was damaging democracy with the plan.

\"The very fabric of our democracy, by all these measures, is being continually undermined,\" Mr Beazley told the Nine Network.

\"When we were in office (we) existed with a situation of a high level of Senate accountability,\" Mr Beazley said.

Opposition senators described the senate plan as \"arrogant and high-handed\", complaining that it would further sideline the Senate as a house of review.

Under the changes, the Government will have to first approve any matter or piece of legislation being referred to Senate committees.

The Government will also be able to ensure every chairman is from the Coalition and can stop embarrassing witnesses from appearing before Senate inquiries.

In a letter sent to party leaders, Senator Minchin said the changes were designed to \"achieve greater efficiencies and effectiveness\".

This would be done by collapsing the present 16 committees into a system of eight or 10.

But while a number of committees at present are chaired by non-Coalition senators, the Government now wants to head each of the new committees, reflecting its one-seat majority in the Senate.

John Howard has previously said the Government would be \"modest, even humble\" in how it used its Senate majority, which was unexpectedly gained at the 2004 election.

Last night, the Prime Minister rejected claims it would entrench government power and allow the Coalition to avoid scrutiny.

But Labor's Senate leader Chris Evans said the move was a \"nail in the coffin of the Senate's capacity to hold this Government to account\".

The changes to the committee structure meant the \"end to the powerful system that brought revelations about children overboard and failings in military justice\", he said.

Greens leader Bob Brown said the changes meant all committees would be \"controlled from the Prime Minister's office\" and that Parliament was \"being sidelined by executive power\".

Mr Beazlaey also today attacked the Government's proposed changes to electoral laws under which the electoral roll close would close on the day an election was called.


\"It (the Government) is chopping kids out of a chance to vote at the next election,\" Mr Beazley said.


showing their true colours now arent they?
tathi
"power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" :(
Paulie
pkc, get the over it...there is no such thing as a democracy. Democracy was raped and pillaged over a century ago... YOu think Beazley is any better. Everyone is out for their own gain. As for the last point who cares, a few hundred kids miss out on voting. Big ...
queen_vee
Holy .

That is absolutely deplorable.

Does 'dictatorship' spring to mind? Perhaps they could next change legislation to ensure no person may be elected to government without Johnny's prior consent and approval.
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Paulie
pkc, get the over it...there is no such thing as a democracy. Democracy was raped and pillaged over a century ago... YOu think Beazley is any better. Everyone is out for their own gain. As for the last point who cares, a few hundred kids miss out on voting. Big ...


thats a fantastically insightful analysis of contemporary australian politics. you should be proud.

edit: but for the record, i aint no moronic partisan hack criticising the govt coz theyre the wrong party. im not a party supporter at all actually. so stick that in your pipe and misunderstand it.
Paulie
Listen here PKC you fairy... If you are after political analysis i think you have the wrong board. As for you not being a moronic partisan hack. I would beg to differ, also your posts on the matter would beg to differ.
pkcRAISTLIN
quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
Listen here PKC you fairy... If you are after political analysis i think you have the wrong board.


meh, there are a few people on here with brains.

quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
As for you not being a moronic partisan hack. I would beg to differ, also your posts on the matter would beg to differ.


im sure you beg for a lot of things.

ill break it down nice and simple-like for you:

the liberal party is the party in government. that means theyre the ones making all the decisions. the opposition is there to hold the govt accountable (the nature of liberal democracy which this new plan undermines btw) but do very little of their own policy work.

thus, i am critical of plans the government is making, not the *liberal* government. *the* government. if anyone else was in power and making absurd changes like this id be just as against it.

its not my fault there are plenty of things pretty about our current administration. if and when the labor party manages to claw its way into office i look forward to your equally stunning contributions when im criticising them too.
tathi
quote:
Originally posted by Paulie
Listen here PKC you fairy... If you are after political analysis i think you have the wrong board. As for you not being a moronic partisan hack. I would beg to differ, also your posts on the matter would beg to differ.

There are only three Australians who are active in the Political forum, so other than having to ignore your narrowminded views this is the best forum to post it in.

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