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2006.01.27. DEEP DISH (8hrs set) & Brad Copeland @ SOHO - This is London
 
Tranceplanted
Could someone please tell me what all this in the air is about with the club basically doing what any other club of it's type does on any given weekend? It's a club's right to grant you the privelege of entry and to partake in the night they put on. No one ever said that you couldn't go somewhere else if you don't agree with it.

Case in point, you go to an upscale restaurant, or a gala event, or function of some kind, like a wedding, everything has a dress code and decorum to follow. Even simple things like work and school, even church for some of you, require a cetain attitude and dress code to be adhered to, informal or formal. Does this mean that a club, putting on a night is somehow not allowed to follow the same thinking? If they want people in their establishment to have a certain look or attitude, is that out of their rights? I'm not passing judgement on it as a right or wrong, which many of you are doing, I'm simply saying it's within their rights to do, as a business. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over things that you aren't entitled to or can control.

In terms of the age thing, get over it people. I don't go to all ages events, or 16+ events for the reason that I don't particularily like seeing 16 year olds sketched out, period. Not saying all of them do, but it happens, I've seen it, and I'd rather just not be around that. I'll admit I was in bars when I was 16, the drinking age was 18 where I came from, and I came to realization very quickly that the bars, clubs, etc are a business. They are there to make money, and if you aren't contributing to that, they don't want you, period. In all honesty, they don't really care if you have a good time or not, so long as the tills keep ringing, it's just obviously easier to get people to spend if they're enjoying themselves. If they feel they can get more money from an older age group, that's their business model, leave them be. Put it another way, are you going to bitch about a high end french cuisine restaurant for not serving a cheeseburger and fries?

Where am I going with all of this obviousness? Well, here's the thing, if you understand the game, and yes everyone who's shocked, clubbing in general is a game, you will get in. All over the world, the rules are simple.

First, look appropriate for the place you're going to. If it's a dive bar, you're not showing up in a suit. If it's a upscale martini bar, tattered jeans and a sweat shirt aren't going to make a good impression.

Second, know how to work the door. For guys, if you're not Brad Pitt good looking or next in line to inherit a greek shipping empire, bringing attractive ladies always works, plain and simple truth. If you can't do that, show up in small groups. I repeat, no club likes admitting a group of more than 4 guys at a time max, period. So if there's a group of you and you all want to get in, and you don't know anyone who can get you in, your best bet to do that is to go in smaller groups. I can't remember the last time I ever saw a group of ladies having a hard time getting into a club, so I have no advice really to give.

Third, related to working the door, do not piss off the staff. In fact, suprisingly :rolleyes:, being friendly with staff and giving them a reason to both like you and do you a favor will get you much better service at a club. Being the bitchy girl who puts on the bitch face when the bouncer says he has no idea who you are or who you know will get you nowhere. Or being the guy who tries to name drop without actually knowing anyone in the club well enough to be doing that typically gets you nowhere fast. Or the guy that gets angry because he can't get in doesn't work. Never will, go figure. Best bets are to be honest and sincere. A little lying never hurt either, but make it small and sell it like your life depended on it. Also, learn names of people who work there, and introduce yourself. If they remember you, you're more likely to have a much easier time getting in next time. Make sure you know their name next time and drop a hey, don't ask for favors right away, just let them get used to you being a familiar. Also, the higher up a club's management chain that know you, the easier it becomes to get in.

Fourth, which I think people already know, guestlists are you friends. But they can also be inconvenient. And being on a guestlist doesn't mean you shouldn't still be friendly and engaging with the staff. Guestlists aren't always guaranteed to get you in, but working the door and being on the guestlist will only increase your chances. Resos and such if you are so inclined will pretty much get you in, but in all honesty not everyone can spend that kind of jack.

So what have we learned?

1. Stop whining about clubs being selective, it's not your right to tell them who to let in.
2. Don't be a dick or a bitch. Staff are there to work and do what they're told by management. Management decisions are based on what they feel can make money, if you don't like it, don't go. Money is all that matters here, so hurt em in the tills.
3. Clubbing has and always will be a game. Learn the rules, play the game, dunno what else to say about it.
allym
So what have we learned?

1. Stop whining about clubs being selective, it's not your right to tell them who to let in.
2. Don't be a dick or a bitch. Staff are there to work and do what they're told by management. Management decisions are based on what they feel can make money, if you don't like it, don't go. Money is all that matters here, so hurt em in the tills.
3. Clubbing has and always will be a game. Learn the rules, play the game, dunno what else to say about it. [/QUOTE]

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thesauce23
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Originally posted by Tranceplanted
So what have we learned?

1. Stop whining about clubs being selective, it's not your right to tell them who to let in.
2. Don't be a dick or a bitch. Staff are there to work and do what they're told by management. Management decisions are based on what they feel can make money, if you don't like it, don't go. Money is all that matters here, so hurt em in the tills.
3. Clubbing has and always will be a game. Learn the rules, play the game, dunno what else to say about it.



Um Yea ... Pretty much! Good work:happy2:
E2EK1EL
Come on guys ... you don't need to fear anything. Ally M is right, TiL has a new owner and new mgmt and many things are changed for Friday Nights.
Tranceplanted
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Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Come on guys ... you don't need to fear anything. Ally M is right, TiL has a new owner and new mgmt and many things are changed for Friday Nights.


I'm not sure that it's fearing anything, I for one welcome the change. It's nice to get a little more upscale venue for dj nights and I think it'll be a great night.

I don't understand however the view of some people of why it is unfair for a club to have restrictions on who they let in. And why they don't understand there's always exceptions to any rule, within reason.

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