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| batemanscott |
I think the coaltion has done a good job. I disagree with a couple things like anyone but you have to ask "What would the other guys really have done in the same position"?
I'm not a blind liberal supporter, i am a realist and i would love for some other party to offer such a good package that i would be forced to vote for them but sadly i dont see this happening anytime soon. |
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| 00soups00 |
decriminalisation of drugs...
you must be joking right.... no seriously!!! you MUST be joking... im suprised someone as smart as yourself johno4l is saying something like that.. yes, it can be argued that if drugs werent illegal, then it would take the criminal element away from it all, and therefor some of the appeal would be taken away. In my opinion, that is rubbish. You decriminalise drugs you have an even bigger problem where the people take way too much and end up like drugfaced mules (if that doesnt happen already). it may not be nice to say, but ill say it anyway, death by overdoses is an effective culling device. you take that away by introducing government controlled drugs/dosage, who the hell knows what would happen.
as far as the IR reform, what are the examples of how this would affect the average worker? Im assuming that you (like myself) are basing your judgement purely on advertising, plus you wouldnt be a fan of the Liberal Party either. What EVIDENCE do you have to suggest it makes the ordinary person worse off?? [is it because of that ad where the guy is told her has to work friday nights even though his wife already does and he has 3 children???]
as far as the liberal parties terror laws go, im not really a huge supporter of how far they've gone e.g "shoot-to-kill clause", which as Jono4l correctly pointed that, is in direct contrary to many constitutional rights such as Innocent Until Proven Guilty. In my opinion what has happened to David Hicks has been a n disgrace & the Australian government should be concentrating their efforts on getting him back to Australia instead of worrying about those n bali 9 n00bs or that other traffiker Nguyen Tuong Van.
In other news -
Veteran Australian TV star Bert Newton will leave the Ten Network when his show Good Morning Australia ends next week after a 14-year run. |
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| queen_vee |
Sure Johnny's done a great job with the economy (he tells us ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME)
But at what cost? I'd say we're a society now that doesn't truly appreciate human values...(not that labour still hold on to those core values that established them... they're more the 'Liberal Lights' these days anyway)
Every man for himself and a booming economy. Woot! Love those aspirationalists. They're the backbone of this country now.
It's going to be sooo great when these reforms come in and the poor and uneducated can be taken advantage of.
Australia is screwed in the wider scheme of things.
/shrugs/ My life seems to be chugging away OK. I mean, I'm not working the streets, and I'm not fully addicted to any drugs ;) |
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| 00soups00 |
looking after yourself and your friends and your family and stuff the guy next to you, isnt something that is acheivable at all, however its certainly not just because of the government that this has come about, its through a whole lot of different avenues - E.G the media!
and the poor and uneducated (and those who cant stand up for themselves) have been taken advantage of for a long time. this is nothing really new at all.
| quote: | | /shrugs/ My life seems to be chugging away OK. I mean, I'm not working the streets, and I'm not fully addicted to any drugs |
and how are you any different to those who are looking after themselves??? MY life seems to be chugging away okay. I mean I'M not working the streets and I'M not fully addicted....
all about you :stongue: |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
decriminalisation of drugs...
you must be joking right.... no seriously!!! you MUST be joking... im suprised someone as smart as yourself johno4l is saying something like that.. yes, it can be argued that if drugs werent illegal, then it would take the criminal element away from it all, and therefor some of the appeal would be taken away. |
firstly, unless the federal govt does something sneaky re international treaties concerning drugs, the legality of narcotic substances is a state issue, not a commonwealth one, so its a moot point.
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
In my opinion, that is rubbish. You decriminalise drugs you have an even bigger problem where the people take way too much and end up like drugfaced mules (if that doesnt happen already). it may not be nice to say, but ill say it anyway, death by overdoses is an effective culling device. you take that away by introducing government controlled drugs/dosage, who the hell knows what would happen. |
youre an idiot soups. firstly, there are countries in the world that have a markedly different stance on drug use than australia, and they do just fine. also, the word decriminalise is very very different from LEGALISE. but youre just a typical gurner who likes to distinguish between substances - the drug problem is defined by people that i dont like abusing drugs i dont use. the ever-reliable position of the holier-than-thou hypocrite.
the currently legal substances cause far more grief and damage than narcotics ever will, regardless of legalities.
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
as far as the IR reform, what are the examples of how this would affect the average worker? Im assuming that you (like myself) are basing your judgement purely on advertising, plus you wouldnt be a fan of the Liberal Party either. What EVIDENCE do you have to suggest it makes the ordinary person worse off?? |
how about the fact that the small business employees will lose their right to challenge a dismissal? how about that currently unemployed workers will be put into AWAs that they must 'negotiate' with the boss; to negotiate means that you have some bargaining power. what kind of bargaining power does an unemployed desperado have? by allowing this, it undermines the wages of currently employed ppl. sure, apparently you cant be fired for choosing not to sign an AWA, but who the fvck wants to be in the same job theyre doing right now for the rest of their life? sooner or later they'll wanna move and then that AWA is gonna be rearing its ugly head. hey, soups works for 55c an hour, we'd be happy for you to join our lovely business at the same rate. fvck off.
what EVIDENCE do you have soups that it wont be detrimental to your average worker? quick, go switch on the telly and parrot what the Liberal, oh im sorry i mean government advertising is telling you. |
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