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| Philby |
| quote: | Originally posted by S_madis
'The broad-minded see the truth in different religions; the narrow-minded see only the differences'
a chinese proverb I stubbled across a while back |
haha i wasn't being serious and i don't understand what you just wrote at this time so i can't tell if you are either :p |
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| S_madis |
| nahh dude I know sarcasm when I see it, it was in reference to Paulie's comment. |
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| Renegade |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
[cue mass generalisation] |
Yeah, at least you're honest.
| quote: | | The current influx of islamic cultures completely go against what migration is about. |
And what exactly is migration about, Paulie? Answer that for me, then tell me what it is exactly that the people of the Islamic faith are doing to go "completely against" it?
| quote: | | They build communities within our community |
Meaning what, exactly? People of similar faiths tend to seek out each other's company? Yeah, I'm sure glad that there's no Anglican community, or Lutheran community, or Greek Orthodox Christian community within this country. Could you imagine how divided it would be if that were the case?
| quote: | | and continually fuel their hate and propoganda to generation after generation. |
Yeah, that's strange. All the Muslims I've ever known have actually been caring, rational people. How would they fit into your world-view, do you think?
| quote: | | They are always out to beat the system |
Which means what, exactly?
| quote: | | and refuse to accept the australian way of life |
And what is the "Australian way of life", Paulie? Please define it in such a way that the "genuine" Australians like you and I (given how similar our "genuine" Australian belief systems are) can be included in the definition, and in such a way that our Muslim bretheren cannot be included? What else do "Australians" have in common other than their common obligation to adhere to Australian law?
| quote: | | Just because my view isnt politically correct pkc doesnt make it wrong or right. |
Political correctness has nothing to do with it. You're wrong and you're an idiot. |
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| Paulie |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
roger that.
look, i can totally see where youre coming from, and you would certainly be in a geographical region where you would experince more of this than i. and you only need to scan the news to hear of certain things that make you livid with anger. dont get me wrong, im not a politically correct hippie. and we wont go into my strong biases against certain elements of various cultures ;)
but im just not sure those in detention are the same people youre describing. obviously i could be wrong.
people do all kinds of awful things & are punished by the legal system, getting far less time behind bars. imo something should be done to reduce the length of time they spend inside.
but even with legal immigration, bad apples are always going to be in the mix. im certainly not saying youre wrong in this context, but id really need to see some kind of data or evidence that showed a great number of middle easterners fit the generalisation(s) youve made.
i know the media just fvcking loves to highlight particular things in all peoples/races/classes in different contexts, and whilst those things obviously have had to occur to be news (you hope), i certainly dont have any idea if thats an adequate representation. i mean, how the fvck can you tell?
word. dont get me started on women and their stupid stupid ideas :rolleyes: :D :p |
PKC, i dont need to watch the news... i see it with my own eyes. When my sister goes to school and is told they are no longer allowed to celebrate xmas at school because of other religions, or when i go to the market and a herd of hoodlums, are shouting "ing slag", "ing skip" or when i go to the train station and have to look at my toes. Obviously thats what migration is to renegade. Migration to him is about segregation, separating communities from other communities. The majority of them want australia to accomodate for them instead of the other way around. Until that mindset of their changes i couldnt give two hoots. |
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| S_madis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Paulie
PKC, i dont need to watch the news... i see it with my own eyes. When my sister goes to school and is told they are no longer allowed to celebrate xmas at school because of other religions, or when i go to the market and a herd of hoodlums, are shouting "ing slag", "ing skip" or when i go to the train station and have to look at my toes. Obviously thats what migration is to renegade. Migration to him is about segregation, separating communities from other communities. The majority of them want australia to accomodate for them instead of the other way around. Until that mindset of their changes i couldnt give two hoots. |
what you're basically saying Paulie is that Muslims are the reason why your sister can't celebrate Xmas at school, Muslims youths are the only group that shout "ing slag" , "ing skip" at others in Market places. Muslims have forced you to look at your toes when you walk in train stations. Common champ, this country is one of the most culturally diverse in the entire world and to stigmatise an entire religion/faith completely contradicates your comment of accepting the 'Australian way' of life. Sure I agree, there are bad apples everywhere and maybe in your community/area there are more 'middle eastern' individuals due to place of settlement, but seriously dude the way you go on, suggests that 'every' single Muslim on the face of the earth has a vendetta against the West and society in general. Im not going to sit here talk about how my family is in continuos praise of this country and how ashamed we feel that the disgusting actions of a few, continue to spoil the good work that the rest of us have built, but I will say that if you're going to make generalised comments, at least do some reading and have some knowledge about the topic you discuss. I dont want to change your view/opinion I couldn't care less what you think, it's people like you I stay away from my entire life, because I know that at the end of the day, no matter what good I do by you, you will always judge me because I associate myself with Islam. |
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