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| Light The Fuse |
OKay, here we go...inspired by Rez's statement that production is the only way to rise above the 'dj fad'.
DJing is PLaying a blend of music that fits together in a coherrent manner, making the dancefloor feel a range of emotions in that time (which maybe anything from 1-10 hours), while expanding their horizons - just that little bit more. It will also move their mind so much that it makes them move their body.
Production is making a 2-10 minute peice(s) of music that will fit into a DJ set or larger scale picture (album). It comes from the heart, but if it is dance music, it is intended to make peoPLe move and feel moved.
THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS.
Writing a piece of music doesnt mean you can make peoPLe dance for hours str8. This is dance music.
Ive seen it time and time again, these standard int. producers come down having made a couPLa 'hitz' and they jump on the dex ...and THEY SUCK ASS. DJing may not be an art as such, but it is a craft. PeoPLe must realise, there is a difference. Moby is a great producer, but Digweed is a great DJ. |
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| batemanscott |
I've been saying the same thing for a while jule's.
This is why the quality of the international dj's has dropped so dramatically.
I love signums productions but they were pretty ordinary at tt which was really dissappointing. |
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| vitamin v |
Totally agree!!:D
It's quite simple ...
...Being a good producer doesnt make you a good dj and vice versa.
It's rare though, that one person can do both well like M.I.K.E/PUSH.
It's all to easy now for ANYONE to download Reason or Cubase and slave away at it for a couple of years, happen to produce one bomb track and then get asked to tour with it internationally. So guys that have been djing for years then get stuck supporting someone who may have only been behind the decks (or cdj's, more likely) for a couple of months.
Listened to a recent Judge Jules set and whilst many of the tracks are shocking, the level of DJing is still quite exceptional and way above the standard to what we are getting today.
I personally couldn't care less who has done what production. I just love to see and hear a set (preferably on vinyl) performed by a DJ who knows what they are doing. |
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| AJS1 |
I know I too have made comments that dj's need to produce, but I also agree that dj'ing and production are two different things.
However, I still believe that with so many wanna be dj's around, that the only ones who want to 'make it' in the future would be doing themselves and their credibility no end of good, if they could produce a few good tunes on their own, as well as play other peoples tunes.
I think learning some production skills also complments ones dj'ing skills when it comes to doing extended mixes of tracks and trying new things by sampling in other bits and pieces... |
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| DaveBegic |
actually ill edit my post and put it simply.
djing will take you around australia.. production will take you around the world. |
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| batemanscott |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveBegic
actually ill edit my post and put it simply.
djing will take you around australia.. production will take you around the world. |
This is exactly the problem tho dave. we dont go to see a producer "produce" on a stage, we go to see them "dj"
I also realize that productions are the only way we can market alot of dj's because it's a path to broader exposure.
I dont believe djing requires the skill of producing, it really isn't hard to mix. But any idiot can spot a great dj from a very mediocre one who may be a good producer. |
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| BinaryRefined |
| quote: | Originally posted by vitamin v
It's rare though, that one person can do both well like M.I.K.E/PUSH.
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and GTR :) |
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| DaveBegic |
yeah scott i agree with you to an extent. but all im saying is that there is a stronger scene overseas because they all have exports. we dont have exports in australia.. no exports = no big deal really, since everyone's a dj now. let's face it, in some aspects of the business, australia is waaaaaaaay behind.
i wouldnt necessarily say "productions are a way we can market a dj".. this is kind of how i see it ::
if you're in a band you tour the world with your band and play your own music,
if you're an electronic artist you tour the world and dj a set.
i think over in australia, we see all the artists on tour and thats the only end of the spectrum we get, so thats why so many people become djs, because its all we really know down here. (that and its substantially easier to say writing a good tune).
that said i dont feel the need to burn off any bridges.. see as a guy who writes tracks, i need djs to play my tunes. so in that sense i spose the marketting does work.
what im really trying to say is i hope you all die in a house fire.
| quote: | Originally posted by batemanscott
This is exactly the problem tho dave. we dont go to see a producer "produce" on a stage, we go to see them "dj"
I also realize that productions are the only way we can market alot of dj's because it's a path to broader exposure.
I dont believe djing requires the skill of producing, it really isn't hard to mix. But any idiot can spot a great dj from a very mediocre one who may be a good producer. |
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