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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Volley, yes. Serve, hardly. I don't even know how you can say that serve is almost gone considering the amount of players that have their serve as their main advantage. |
No no, you misinterpreted him. "Serve and volley" is referred to a practice in whole. Serving,then coming in and volleying.
The "serve and volley" game is all but gone is what he meant. Not that individually serving is gone (ie. big serves as you read it) or volleying is gone. |
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| Cosmic Fur |
Ahhh, my mistake. Then I agree. I think it's harder now because of two things:
A) Serves are much faster now, and the returns come back faster too. Coming up to the net after a serve will not give you enough time to set up your volley. Hell, by the time you get to the net the ball will already be at the baseline of your court.
B) As a result of A, players adapted their game so that their baseline accuracy is much greater, even with really powerful hits. So someone coming up to the net after the serve is suiciding themselves a point because their opponent will have no trouble sending a 100-mph shot down the sideline, making it practically impossible to return it, much less get a winner with a volley.
Not to mention, a volley doesn't leave much room for error, you up your volley, and the ball with either be out, or you'll lob it way up, making for an easy winner for your opponent. |
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| Abercrombie |
| So um.... does anyone have any copies of those many upskirt and shower pix taken at the open? They just arrested a third guy today. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
So um.... does anyone have any copies of those many upskirt and shower pix taken at the open? They just arrested a third guy today. |
WHAT! Really? Je les veux! I want to see them (badly).
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
B) As a result of A, players adapted their game so that their baseline accuracy is much greater, even with really powerful hits. So someone coming up to the net after the serve is suiciding themselves a point because their opponent will have no trouble sending a 100-mph shot down the sideline, making it practically impossible to return it, much less get a winner with a volley.
Not to mention, a volley doesn't leave much room for error, you up your volley, and the ball with either be out, or you'll lob it way up, making for an easy winner for your opponent. |
On your last point, oh yea. So true, hence the other reason why ppl avoid it. Its a damn hard skill to perfect well and if you dont do it right, then you for sure will lose that point.
Interesting point with B). I never looked or thought about it like that before, that the accuracy with which players will hit returns will have gotten better (making for more winners by players from the baseline). Makes sense, thanks for mentioning that.
Agassi was the man for place his shots so excellently from the baseline. It was how he competed so effectively against all the power hitters on the men's side. Amazing, simply amazing and consistent shot making, be them cross court or down-the-line shots.
Hingis places her shots very well too. Because she's able to think and analyse returns so quickly on court, shes really excelled at doing this. And I think she needs to get better, keeping the variety up in her shots in order to really stand a chance to defeat the more powerful top ranked players on the court. The power game really makes it hard for Hingis, and is one reason she chose to take a break from the pro tour 3 years ago (in addition to being plagued by ankle injuries) |
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| Rodrico |
| quote: | Originally posted by TheVrk
EDIT: WOW:eyes: #10 Fernando Gonzalez JUST beat #2 Nadal in straight sets!
This really is a surprise to me.
Sets up #10 vs #12 Tommy Haas in the semis.
Both had HUGE wins in the quarters, making this semi WAY too tuff to call.
Good on Gonzalez tho:) |
I dont even watch tennis, but since my wierd sleep schedule from being sick and staying up to watch Poker after Dark on NBC, I stayed up to watch my fellow Chileno take a win. It was a pretty impressive match for Gonzalez to say the least, but I've seen Nadal play before and it didnt look like him out there. Nadal was frustrated and completely controlled over by Gonzalez. Anyhow this is probably my only contribution to tennis since I rarely watch the . |
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