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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Men could not even begin to understand the degree of emotion a woman can feel while pregnant, or after the pregnancy. So I really do not think that it's fair for any male to offer any judgements of something they cannot possibly relate to.
Yes, you can give your opinion, but I do not think that it is fully educated until you have read up on Psychology and Neuro-Science, personally spoken to many women who have had children about this particular subject, and have either experienced it yourself, or have studied it for quite some time.
Try to have some compassion for your fellow human beings. Clearly something wasn't resting well on her mind for her to do something like this. Do you not recall where you have felt pushed so far to the edge where you were about to, or did, snap?
This is not only mental, it is chemical. A woman's body undergoes so much during a pregnancy that things are drastically changing from minute to minute. With the demands of your physical self, along with the demands and expectations of many other people, as well as your mental self, you can be so stressed and become very wary, that depression easily sets in.
If any of you have had depression, especially severe depression, you can understand that with this disease, you are not always thinking rationally.
With the combonation of irrational thinking, massive chemical fluctuations, and raised expectations of everyone around you, I can only imagine that you could easily be pushed to your limit, and snap to the point of complete insanity.
My heart goes out to her and to every other woman who has, or will experience a similar experience. It is too bad that it came to this in the end, and I hope that her and her family rest in peace. |
Fair nuff, as a man i don't understand what went through that womans mind before she killed her childern and husband. Still, i stand by my judgement. She shoulda thrown herself off the bridge the second she started to get those crazy thoughts...woulda saved two innocent lives, if she had the courage to harm herself first, her death would have meant something.
If this had been a man who killed his wife and kids, no one would even be talking about medical excuses like post netal depression. The woman was clearly unstable -- i feel sorry that no one was able to pick up on it and get her the help she needed. That being said, once she killed a member of her family, i lost every little bit of compassion i might have otherwise have had.
She's burning in hell...where she belongs. |
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
My heart goes out to her and to every other woman who has, or will experience a similar experience. It is too bad that it came to this in the end, and I hope that her and her family rest in peace. |
Why would your heart go out to someone who killed her husband, child, and attempted to kill her other child? There is no depression in the world that justifies that. I know many women who have had that problem but none of them killed their children!
And it's more than just "too bad" that it came to that. Jesus christ, how's that for flawed reasoning?! :wtf: "Oh well she had post-partum depression so it's okay, poor woman..."
Yeah right. :wtf: |
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| Euphorica |
| yeah, she shoudlve spoke up before it got that far but she probably wasnt thinking right (no ) |
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| rabbitjoker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Yes, you can give your opinion, but I do not think that it is fully educated until you have read up on Psychology and Neuro-Science, personally spoken to many women who have had children about this particular subject, and have either experienced it yourself, or have studied it for quite some time. |
And let me guess - you have?
I don't think so. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by rabbitjoker
And let me guess - you have?
I don't think so. |
Ha ha, good point RJ. You are right, I have not experienced it myself, but I had somewhat studied it in highschool (which included talking to a few women who had been through it), and as a woman feel that I have a degree of a better understanding as to how the female body can really just mess with you. I was also a nanny for 4 months to a new born baby, lived with the people, and trust me, I saw the effects of postpartum on the mother, and she even had me there to help her out.
loca, you would be surprised to know that this is not the first instance of a woman killing herself or child due to postpartum (correct spelling by the way). This is more common than you seem to be aware of. Do a google search and you will see that thousands of women over the time of history have experienced something of the like; some resulting in death of both the mother and baby, or one of the other. Postpartum is a common disorder that isn't, in my opinion, treated properly, or offered the appropriate kind of help. That is why I have sympathy. It is unnatural for me to feel anything more than sympathy to someone I have never met, and knew nothing of other than this specific incidence.
It is more understanding than it is reasoning. I am not reasoning what she did, but I am understanding how she may have been feeling. People are too quick to judge other people and their decisions about situations they have never even been close to experiencing. There is no level of common ground, and a persons own perceptions are put into place, which are often unfair. I may not believe what she did was the right thing to do, however, knowing a little bit about it, I can say that I can fathom where she must have been coming from.
I do agree that she should have spoken up when she realized she needed more than help, but even if she had, there is a likely chance that her cries for support would have been underminded, and possibly dismissed all together. In fact, who says she didn't ask for help? People sometimes don't quite get the dire need a person has until it's too late.
It should be commonly understood amongst society, so that women don't feel so much shame and terror of their own thoughts and feelings. It must be a terrible feeling thinking negatively towards a little baby that you have grown such a connection with, and unconditionally love. It would be awful to not only come out and make yourself look like a terrible human being, but a horrid mother as well by admitting you feel these things.
I just hope that this will bring awareness to more people that things like this can and will happen, and that there should be better support programs put into place for these women.
Just my opinion. |
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