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Battle/techno mixers
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| 404 Science |
Im looking at the Stanton Sk2, and its listed as a battle mixer
http://www.stantondj.com/alpha44/mixers_sk-2.asp
what im wondering is how good will it be for mixing trance/techno/house...
could there be something with the volume controls or the EQs that would make a battle mixer worse than a "techno" mixer? For example, would it ever happen that the EQs wouldnt kill the sound when turned all the way down?
Or is this mixer just fine for the job? |
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| dj chex |
| well the mixer doesn't have a full eq cut so even if you turned the bass all the way down, you will still have bass in the signal. Another thing that i've noticed, stanton mixers usually have poor eqs in the first place. Also, if i remember correctly, the eq will not effect the pfl, so it can make adjusting the eq on the cued channel difficult. |
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| tu_face |
most mixers don't have a full kill on the eq knobs. most are about -16dB to -26dB ish. complete kills are an advantage in some respects, but life is certainly bearable without them.
if you are mixing techno, kill switches or complete eq kills are usually more useful, but you shouldn't always use a complete kill, sometimes it sounds better with it, sometimes it sounds better with a straight -26dB cut, thats why its useful to have the cue signal post EQ so you can tell how it will sound.
the sk2 is a very basic low end mixer.. to be honest if you are wanting to give it some hammer and not have to buy another mixer for a while i would go for something a little higher up than that. have a look at some of the vestax mixers like the pmc-05 and others in their battle range (if thats what you are looking for), also check out the pioneer djm707, i have heard good things about these.
if you are looking for a more all-round mixer that you can play pretty much anything on, then look no further than the vestax pcv-275. in my opinion, £ for £ its the best mixer you can buy, and its beautiful to use. |
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| 404 Science |
thats what i thought... so what is a good range for EQ switches?
are the crossfaders and volume controls tighter on techno mixers and looser on battle mixers?
What do you think of thr Behringer PRO DX626
http://www.bananas.com/productdetai...PRO-MIXER-DX626 |
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| tu_face |
the curves & layout are generally the main differences. on a battle/scratch/"techno" mixer (i dont think theres such thing.. they are all pretty much the same) the curves are generally pretty sharp, and eq's generally have a full kill on them. i think you tend to have slightly shorter faders (e.g. 50mm instead of 60mm) and x-fader on them too, so you can get a bit faster with them.
an average cut, as i said, is about -26dB, this usually suffices to mix well, although anything less than -18dB usually sounds a bit e.
i am not a fan of behringer equipment to be honest with you. although its very cheap and cheerful, it probably won't last 5 minutes of you playing techno on it. how much are you looking to spend on a mixer? |
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| razzi |
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
an average cut, as i said, is about -26dB, this usually suffices to mix well, although anything less than -18dB usually sounds a bit e.
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im sure he means anything more than -18dB sounds like :p |
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| dj chex |
| quote: | Originally posted by razzi
im sure he means anything more than -18dB sounds like :p |
i thought he ment anything less than -18db sounds like b/c more is better. :D |
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| 404 Science |
| quote: | Originally posted by tu_face
i am not a fan of behringer equipment to be honest with you. although its very cheap and cheerful, it probably won't last 5 minutes of you playing techno on it. how much are you looking to spend on a mixer? |
well ive tried the numark dmx06 and was really impressed with the sound quality and the effects... i would like something of that quality but maybe a little less money.. im prepared to spend almost up to $300CAN including shipping. |
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| Nemesis44 |
Haven't had time to read the other posts but the main problem with battle mixers is the precission with the EQs. They are not as responsive as the mixers more based on normal mixing.
Cheers
Nem |
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| tu_face |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Haven't had time to read the other posts but the main problem with battle mixers is the precission with the EQs. They are not as responsive as the mixers more based on normal mixing.
Cheers
Nem |
yup, sharper curves for quicker cutting. i wouldnt regard it as a problem if thats what he wants.
what i meant by the less than -18dB, is if its -16dB it doesnt sound as good, which is technically more... yeah i got my negative numbers backwards :p
regarding your budget, i don't think you are going to get a better mixer than the dmx06 for that money. |
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