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| NYCTrancefan |
| This is a whole lot of garbage as far as I am concerned, I am not the most religous person heck certainly not a strict follower of religion but c'mon already. If people don't want to say under God then simply don't say it in the recitation of the pledge of allegiance and move on with life. People stil have the choice to do so in the U.S. Funny that this guy is so concerned about his daughter reciting the pledge of allegiance, when he is not even deemed a fit parent maybe he should focus on other aspects of his daughter's daily welfare than worrying about such a pathetic issue. What has the world come to when you can't say "under God" in the pledge" because it offends a few, my goodness. |
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| DjSway |
| quote: | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
This is a whole lot of garbage as far as I am concerned, I am not the most religous person heck certainly not a strict follower of religion but c'mon already. If people don't want to say under God then simply don't say it in the recitation of the pledge of allegiance and move on with life. People stil have the choice to do so in the U.S. Funny that this guy is so concerned about his daughter reciting the pledge of allegiance, when he is not even deemed a fit parent maybe he should focus on other aspects of his daughter's daily welfare than worrying about such a pathetic issue. What has the world come to when you can't say "under God" in the pledge" because it offends a few, my goodness. |
See, another example of "too much freedom". True, so many have time to sue for any reasons. I.E. woman who tried to sue Janet Jackson and NBC for the boob episode. |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
It's funny that in America many people would like to see strong integration between the state and fundamentalist branches of the church, yet the state and religion are more seperated than they are in Europe where noone really cares about religion anymore. |
I guess the founding fathers had remarkable foresight to predict that when the US opened its borders to immigrants we'd get a lot of regligious nuts that the rest of the world couldn't stand. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NYCTrancefan
If people don't want to say under God then simply don't say it in the recitation of the pledge of allegiance and move on with life. People stil have the choice to do so in the U.S. |
This misses the point. There should be NO reference to God in a governmentally-funded institution. For those who do not adhere to a belief in a God, this is a slap in the face every time the reference is mentioned.
Whether you like it or not, the minority belief is just as equally protected as the majority by the Constitution.
| quote: | | Funny that this guy is so concerned about his daughter reciting the pledge of allegiance, when he is not even deemed a fit parent maybe he should focus on other aspects of his daughter's daily welfare than worrying about such a pathetic issue. |
While I might agree with your opinion here on his parenting skills, the man still has a legitimate gripe about the God reference being unconstitutional.
| quote: | | What has the world come to when you can't say "under God" in the pledge" because it offends a few, my goodness. |
A reasonable, rational world that gives a voice to the minority as well as the majority? Those atheists and agnostics may only be a few % of the population in our country, but we are still referring to millions of individuals who wish not to have our government be involved with any religious indoctrination, esp. when we consider the origins of the insertion of the phrase in the 1950’s. |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I guess the founding fathers had remarkable foresight to predict that when the US opened its borders to immigrants we'd get a lot of regligious nuts that the rest of the world couldn't stand. |
Haha, too funny Occ, I did see a guy on the other day. He was Muslim and lived in Deerborn Michigan, city with the largest concentration of Muslims in America for those who don't know. He stated that I pray for America and hope that one day all Americans become Muslims, ah okay sure. Islam is a wonderful religion but no thank you, this isn't Saudi Arabia at least people of all faiths can come here and have freedoms because we aren't a state run by religion.
Is it true by the way that Jews cannot enter Saudi Arabia, read it on a BBC website post and couldn't believe it is true, I know that non Muslims can't enter Mecca but barring people from entering the nation based on their religion, just gotta shake my head. Not that too many Jews would want to or be smart to go their anyway. |
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