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Cheers Matt_h!!! :)
Looks like im getting my full license then! I get 1 year of driving on my aus one and then can just swap it straight for a GB one - no test!!! WOOHOO!!!
Gotta love the UK! :D |
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by bassaholix
Untrue!!!!!! :whip: OMG how can you say that ... P platers are the most up to date drivers, especially now since the tests are so damm hard, how many freken times have you seen accident's when the people are NOT ON THEIR P's, are over 25 and are more accident prone, people who hog the right lane, everyone knows that the right lane is the fast lane, ur supposed to go faster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We stay at the speed level or just above it, not under it, especially in peak hour traffic, i make sure i get enough sleep cause my 15 min drive to work is crazy, you need the reflexes of a jedi if you want to drive in my area, if you make a mistake drivers around here chew u up and spit you out like an old foul tasting chewing gum!
Perfect example, my gf's sister last night was at a traffic light, stopped on red, when some FULL LICENCE PRICK just smashed behind her n ed up her 1 year old Nissan, wat was his excuse? "I thought the lights were about to change so i didn't stop cause she was going to go..."
FULL LICENCE PERSON SAYING THAT? Now come on fair play.. this is ridiculous... what about that total wank who drove into the childcare center n burned those little kids?
What about in Carlingford a few months back a FULL LICENCE driver lost control in a 50 ZONE!!! and almost took out 3 little kids coming back from the shops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure P platers aren't the best drivers, but we all know that majority n minority politix always comes into play. |
I'm not going to defend every full license driver out there, believe me I drive further than most people in an average week and I know how poor a lot of people's driving skills are.
But arguing that since there are a lot of accidents that don't involve P-platers and that therefore P-platers aren't worse drivers is completely false. If 5% of drivers on the road are on their Ps, then you would expect about 5% of people doing stupid things or having crashes to be P-platers. But it isn't 5%, it's more like 25%.
I'd estimate that of the people I see doing stupid things (and I see a lot of them), probably 1 in 4 is a P-plater. Likewise, probably 1 in 4-5 P-platers I encounter will do something stupid.
When you say P-platers are more up-to-date drivers, that may be (vaguely) true, but they're also the most inexperienced at dealing with unusual or atypical road conditions, and other drivers. Worse, since P-platers have just passed their test they think they're perfect drivers (after all you've just gotten perfect marks on the test), while their over-representation in crash statistics suggests otherwise.
Believe me, I was in the same position several years ago. The reality is, once you've learnt to pass your driving test you then start learning to actually drive.
And again, not having a go at you personally :) |
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| MrSquirrel |
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What webby says is absolutely correct. Thus why car insurance rates are the highest for drivers under the age of 25.
At least in australia you guys know who is new to driving and who is not by their license plates, here in the US you have no idea at all unless they have personalized plaes with their high school graduation year or something on them hehe.
Be glad you guys don't have to deal with snowstorms and freezing rain as well as all the other new things abotu driving. I had to take my test (which was easy because it is not too difficult to get a license in the US) in an ice storm. Boy was it fun.
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| bassaholix |
Webby, didn't mean to sound rude, just got to me, i know it wasn't personal, i just love deep and meaningful conversations :)
You say that 1 in 4 is a P plater, thats cool, but that is all based on probability, there could be a particular suburb, or time where there are a few more P platers in the area, say the west = less ppl work = more ppl driving around.. lol thats just the case, in the CBD more delivery vans cause of business.
I dunno, maybe in the west way i see alot of stoopid , just normal stuff like last week a brand new M3, i was in her blindspot n she just turned into my lane, i had to hit the breaks, n she gave me this look of death like "Why didn't you let me in" IM like hello wtf? I slowed down, but it wasn't in the time frame it took you to just ram ur $80K (or watever it costs) into me...
P platers can sometimes and i guess very recently in the news have seen to become more and more aggresive, but thats only because people treat P platers like second class road users, people don't give way, and another example, driving home the other night, i was at the lights next to this car, driving down cumberland highway when it turned green, i was in the fast lane doing about 75, wat does the kunt do, he speeds up and gets in front of me, only to slow down to about 72, roughly which made me slow down a touch, now tell me why didn't he just keep on his lane n let me on my merry way?
BAC of 0.00, is fine with me cause i don't drink if im driving, but why not make it for all drivers? Isn't driving under the influence in any sort of licence type dangerous?
And insurance companies have only been forced as there have been way too many dodgy things going on in the past years, rebirthings, ram raids, this is all part of general crime, but unfortunatelly we must foot the bill when it comes to this, like global warming, not everyone recycles, but we must all share in the blame case we are part of humanity.
Not that i don't mind humanity, but we are too flawed, Darwin should have found a better, quicker n more effective method for natural selection cause unfortunatelly some people don't deserve to breathe the same air we breathe... ie, Hitler, the guy who killed Kennedy... Bin Laden???? That M3 bitch.. The story continues... |
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| webmeister |
I've driven around most of Sydney and a good deal of NSW, I haven't noticed any particular concentrations of either type of driver.
As I said, I can't (and won't) defend the actions of all drivers, everyone has stories of near crashes and road rage. However from my perspective, the near-crashes are proportionally more likely to involve a P-plater (particularly when it involves doing something stupid like leaving hi-beams on or not checking mirrors). |
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