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| tubby |
public schools these days have to cater to a lowest common denominator. top performers have to look after themselves, or more commonly just get bored and lose interest. i thought the debate over increased funding to private schools was really funny. Private schools get a lot less funding per student than public schools, but whenever it goes up there's huge uproar. It is, and should be, just like our tax system, kind of reversed (cos this time the gov is giving out money in stead of taking it). More you can afford the less assistance you get, but doesn't mean you should get nothing at all.
as for uni funding, it has to come from somewhere. More and more people want to go to uni. Try asking your parents, and they'll tell you it used to be a much higher selection of students who went on to study. How to pay for all this extra education? Full-fee paying o/s students subsidise the local students, but student politicians whinge about their places being taken up. Cannot have it both ways.
the worst thing i find after all this complaining is those same student politicians take 7 years to finish their 3 year arts degrees cos they spend so much time talking themselves up. |
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| bragi |
| quote: | Originally posted by P'cisT
You gotta realise if you look at the whole spectrum of the current system, the bottom end is 'relatively' fair. However, at the top end, it's newly half your earnings! |
Remember, you only get taxed through each bracket, so it's only the stuff OVER $80K where you're getting hammered. |
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by matt_a
He is aiming this year to have 40% of year 12 over 90 in the UAI! 40% You just wont find public schools that can do anything like that (not including selective highs). |
Not true .. I went to Sefton HS (which is a half-selective public school), about 65% of my grade were over 90%...
| quote: | Originally posted by matt_a
I guess they'll just rack up huge foreign debt again, and leave the next liberal government to pay it off again. Labour seem to have a tendancy of getting into financial troubles (ala Whitlam, Keating) |
Disagree with this too, I think Keating did more for our economy globally than Howard has ever done. Floating the currency, deregulating the banks, actually pushing us towards Asian markets, etc. |
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| matt_a |
| quote: | Originally posted by webmeister
Not true .. I went to Sefton HS (which is a half-selective public school), about 65% of my grade were over 90%...
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TSK TSK
I'm sure in the good old days Webby, Public Highs were good. As I said my public primary was fkn mad, now its house. The downfall the Public system has taken has only occured over the last 10 or so years. And as I said, not including selective highs. How can you compare slective highs like James Ruse etc. They are practically private. I bet they get a load more funding than regular Public Schools. Probably well deserved to as the kids that are there most of em wanna be there! They are not just at school because they have to be kinda thing. |
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| webmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by matt_a
TSK TSK
I'm sure in the good old days Webby, Public Highs were good. As I said my public primary was fkn mad, now its house. The downfall the Public system has taken has only occured over the last 10 or so years. And as I said, not including selective highs. How can you compare slective highs like James Ruse etc. They are practically private. I bet they get a load more funding than regular Public Schools. Probably well deserved to as the kids that are there most of em wanna be there! They are not just at school because they have to be kinda thing. |
Hey I'm not that old, I was Class of 98 :p
As I said, the comparison is valid as Sefton was only half selective. Not withstanding the fact that we were in a disadvantaged area (right in the centre of Bankstown), but the local kids who needed additional funding didn't get it because the selective kids from out of the area would get such high marks and push the school out of the "qualifying for disadvantaged funding" zone... |
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