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Debate: warez & samples (pg. 4)
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| skytribe |
Someone steals some of my samples... I have then lost control of my intellectual property.
You can argue semantics a smuch as you want, but the fact remains that taking something without permission is theft. |
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| Vert |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
Someone steals some of my samples... I have then lost control of my intellectual property.
You can argue semantics a smuch as you want, but the fact remains that taking something without permission is theft. |
I just downloaded the letters you typed without asking. Is that theft? the entire internet is illegal now.
Get off your high horse and stop imposing your beliefs on others.
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
Someone steals some of my samples... I have then lost control of my intellectual property.
You can argue semantics a smuch as you want, but the fact remains that taking something without permission is theft. |
Fair enough.
Don't expect to get too far in this business with that attitude, though. |
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| rb2k1 |
Ive come up with the answer to settle this all!
IT IS DEFINETLY TIME TO OUTLAW ALL COMPUTERS BASED ON WHAT MODERN TECHNOLOGY CAN DO.
Its the only way.
~Ross B
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| moth |
Ross for president!:wtf:
I believe sampling is beautiful. I would be thrilled to hear a chunk of my song in someone elses. I dont see why everything is about money these days, money and signateurs, yikes. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by moth
Ross for president!:wtf:
I believe sampling is beautiful. I would be thrilled to hear a chunk of my song in someone elses. I dont see why everything is about money these days, money and signateurs, yikes. |
Agreed. I would be flattered if someone liked my work so much that he/she wanted to sample it to use in his/her own production.
There is a very distinct line between sampling and plain ripping off though. |
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| skytribe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vert
I just downloaded the letters you typed without asking. Is that theft? the entire internet is illegal now.
Get off your high horse and stop imposing your beliefs on others.
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Don't be ridiculous. That's reductio ad absurdum, and you know it. The permission is implied by the very fact that I posted the message publicly.
You don't have a leg to stand on. Sampling without permission is illegal and unethical, and you cannot argue otherwise. |
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| skytribe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Agreed. I would be flattered if someone liked my work so much that he/she wanted to sample it to use in his/her own production.
There is a very distinct line between sampling and plain ripping off though. |
Flattering, yes. I never denied that. But someone who does that without permission is stealing. |
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| Vert |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
Don't be ridiculous. That's reductio ad absurdum, and you know it. The permission is implied by the very fact that I posted the message publicly.
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And permission is implied by the very fact that a tune is released publically, for people to sample and remix it. That is the point you are missing here, THERE IS GRAY. IT IS HOW THIS INDUSTRY WORKS.
And don't double post moron.
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| skytribe |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vert
And permission is implied by the very fact that a tune is released publically, for people to sample and remix it. That is the point you are missing here, THERE IS GRAY. IT IS HOW THIS INDUSTRY WORKS.
And don't double post moron.
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Er, no. Permission is not actually implied by releasing something publically. If so, there would be no copyright laws, nor would there be warnings on music media against sampling, unauthorized recording, and so forth.
Whether or not this is how the industry works is entirely immaterial. There's a reason for copyright: to protect works from being stolen.
The double post was a mistake. And, by the by, it's usually easy to tell when someone is losing an argument: they start insulting whoever they disagree with. Please try and keep this civil, ok? |
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| Vert |
| quote: | Originally posted by skytribe
The double post was a mistake. And, by the by, it's usually easy to tell when someone is losing an argument: they start insulting whoever they disagree with. Please try and keep this civil, ok? |
"You don't have a leg to stand on. " What the hell is that then?
And yet again, get off your high horse. You (the other party in arguement) cannot state that you are "winning an arguement" it just doesn't work and makes you look a tit bit self righteous. Be 'civil' yourself hypocrite. Stop commenting on my posts, and actually work on countering MY POINTS and not all the symantics.
Everyone is pretty much against you. You still haven't countered the fact that this is how the industry is. There is ZERO denying that. Copyright laws exist yes, but there IS GRAY, and you cannot get that through your thick head apparantly.
If a double post is a 'mistake' you copy the text from one, and consolidate it with the previous post. Very simple really.
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