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| djway |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Repetitive music ranging between 45 - 72 beats per minute (close to heartbeat) |
Trance is @ 133-150bpm.
--djway_TA |
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| tathi |
:/
well there goes part of my theory :)
it will still effect you, i suppose mainly because of the crescendos and increase in tempo etc |
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| Paulie |
| quote: | Originally posted by bragi
Paulie, a lot of your arguments rely on a *fingers in ears* LA LA LA LA! I'm not listening response.
Yes, there are negative aspects to drug use, so believe positive, and largely are pretty much a moot point.
Positive aspects of clubbing:
* enjoying a type of music with others who enjoy the same
* socialising with friends you've met in, out or around the scene
* developing a new interest in life (in my case, djing and sound eng)
* just having a ball
* relaxing all night on a couch letting music pour over you while you watch the crowd go wild
Negative aspects of clubbing:
* hearing loss (although in my case i'd already lost mine to chainsaws and tractors in the 80s before earmuffs were cool)
* being paranoid about undercover cops and dogs even if you've got nothing on you
[the above are all real examples from my real experience]
See, the thing is, all of the above can apply equally well to pubs, or even people going to a free concert in the park.
Don't make the mistake of letting one perceived negative on your part mask the positives, nor the mistake of thinking that a positive must be
a) linked to drugs (and therefore negative)
b) a moot point if it's also a positive in another scene
Yes, the drug use creates a negative shine on the scene to those unfamiliar with it, but that's a simple case of people being scared of things they don't know about.
A simple FACT: there are far fewer illicit drug related deaths or violence of any form than alcohol, tobacco or cars.
Does that make any of those ALL negative? |
respekt.
No insults, no jibes, just a coherent argument, you my friend have won my respect.
But, the reason i dwell on the drug aspect so much is because there would be no "rave culture/parties" without the drugs in first place imo. SQ_K alos has a very valid point:
| quote: | | The difficulty in highlighting the negative aspects of rave culture among insiders is that the negatives aren't so easily experienced, and so they are ignored to an extent. It's worth reflecting on this -- the scene is great fun, but it's not necessarily harmless. |
What frightens me is that the younger kids of today dont understand the fuss of the music, friends plur etc, all they see is people getting off their titties and hence they follow their leader. The frightening thing also is we have no known effects of the drug. That dont scare anyone?
Dont get me wrong i prolly have had the best nites of my life at these things, and prolly will still continue to do. As Ive said before its something id want my kids to stay well clear from.
ps Cheers for some mature respones. |
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| Hybrid Junkie |
| quote: | Originally posted by webmeister
Forgot to mention before, no surprises this thread was posted on a Tuesday ;)
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haha nice spotting! :p
| quote: | Originally posted by djway
Trance is @ 133-150bpm.
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On average our type of stuff is 130-145
Try dividing 130 in half...
65
Try dividing 145 in half..
72.5
Those are within the 45-72 range are they not.
If your heart is going on every second beat, that's still in time to the music.
I don't believe in theory completely, but would certainly make difference albeit a small one.
And tathi, nice psych study for your other points, spot on ;) |
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| tathi |
Ahh didn't think of that hybrid, i suppose you can also take into account the increase in your heart beat while dancing
I think Paulie also poses a good question about minors taking drugs, remember these guys are the next generation of ravers, what will Australias vibe be like in the next 10 years? |
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