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| lethal |
I didnt bring that up as justification for using drugs, just as a couple of facts people should remember when they make claims that its dangerous and "bad"....
Couldnt agree more with you on the other points mate! :) |
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| jono4L |
I can see the negatives however i can also see positives that i have gained from the rave culture.
However as i work with Young people (8-16yo's) on a regular basis i do feel the same way as Paulie in regards to the number of young people who are taking drugs regularly in this culture of ours. Dont get me wrong, i love this culture and really enjoy being a part of the whole thing, including the music, the people and yes to an extent the drugs.
From the perspective of someone who works with young people i do believe that there is a massive issue in the underage drug use with in the culture. I see one very clear cut way to minimize this and that responsibility belongs to the clubs and event management of events such as Gods Kitchen and Together. I didnt get id'd at either of these events and i am rarely id'd at clubs. I am 23 and honestly only look about 20 so i should be id'd more than i am. I also speak to many ppl at events and clubs that turn out to be in that 14-18 yo range. It dissapoints me to see the lack of interest the security and management of these clubs and events show to the age of its patrons.
Take for example the recent incident at Heaven nightclub in Adelaide and the image that gives to our cultre, its not an image i want to be associated with at all. Yet its not only our culture that is to blame for these young people having the complications that they did, its the management and security of Heaven nightclub and all the venues i know around melbourne that i could get anyone into no matter what their age.
All we can do to protect our culture from this sort of image is to discourage the use of drugs in people who are under 18. I know many of the young people i have met in the scene are as much there for the music than the rest of us. I love the music and the people in the scene. The people that are under 18 also are there for the same reasons in the most part. However what it comes down to is that these events are and should be over 18 events/venues. We as patrons of these events need to respect these laws and hope that the management of these venues can also improve the effort they put into assuring that their venue is only being entered by people of correct age.
This may sound like a bit of a rant about the under 18's out there. I am in no way saying that i dont like younger people being around, i just dont think its right for young people to be involved with drugs, the same way they are not supposed to be drinking.
Gonna stop this rant now before i dig a deaper hole :tongue2 |
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| bragi |
| quote: | Originally posted by lethal
I didnt bring that up as justification for using drugs, just as a couple of facts people should remember when they make claims that its dangerous and "bad".... |
I was actually just expanding on your post, and I thought your post was in the same vein as mine. |
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| lethal |
| quote: | Originally posted by bragi
I was actually just expanding on your post, and I thought your post was in the same vein as mine. |
Woops soz mate - i read the first line of your post whilst wearing my "Hehe im about to get flamed!" hat.... i took it the wrong way... my bad! ;)
just a quick question how many of the under 18s on here have actually been able to get in to clubs?? I know we managed to get matt in 2 a couple of Halcyons (go the good ol "im a dj" trick! :D) but just out of curiosity is it actually fairly easy or not???
When i was underage it was VERY easy to get in to a pub but almost impossible to get in to a club! Have things changed??? |
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by jono4L
However what it comes down to is that these events are and should be over 18 events/venues. We as patrons of these events need to respect these laws and hope that the management of these venues can also improve the effort they put into assuring that their venue is only being entered by people of correct age. |
agreed.
however, you're missing an equation.
commercialism + under 18's = $$
that's what it's all about for the organisers, no matter what the cost (ie. the underaged patrons). |
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