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| ScuL |
I've seen large parts of his latest movie Saraband and I've got only one word for it and that's booooorriiiinng :D
... Sorry if I disappoint anyone :p |
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| JayBee |
| quote: | Originally posted by Highmay
-Would regular everyday Swedish movie fans today know and speak to Bergman's better films? (Hardly any Americans know Allen's work)
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the other guys in the swedish forum are gonna laugh at me now but I didn't know who he was. I mean I'v heard his name but had no idea who he was.
and I consider myself to be quite a movie watcher. (not a real freak but close enough) |
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| Highmay |
I guess it would only be natural, probably even unfair, that the older Swedish generation know who he is and not the younger. It would also be unfair to ask them about Fellini, Kurosawa, Hitch****, Carl Dreyer, Gogard, etc. But I'm sure there would different answers if we mentioned Spielberg, Coppola, Ang Lee, etc.
But anyway, as an American and freakish lover of movies, what strikes me most about Bergman's work is his unmatched realism and imagery, best effectively portrayed in his films during the 50's and 60's. The handless clocks in Wild Strawberries, the close-ups of Liv Ulmann's face as her emotions take her over, and about every single minute of The Seventh Seal :p are simply unparalleled feats.
But you guys made me think...
Dragonfly: Humor me. What in particular is the part of the Swedish culture that you speak of when you mention Bergman's exagerrations of it?? And btw: I haven't seen Fanny & Alexander yet. It's next on my list though!!
Goldiluxe: Funny how you mention how he's a dirty old man. It's a very interesting irony with lot's of artists. They function amazingly well in art, but can't function in real life. Still, to say that you'll avoid watching any of his movies for that reason alone is missing a chance to experience them...and that's just not right :). Seperate the man from the art and enjoy what he has given to the world. Please.
Aendy: It's totally cool if you don't like Bergman (I had to force myself to watch Persona 3 times!! The first time I saw it, I said to myself "who on EARTH would find this good??!!"), but his actors are amazing. Liv Ulmann is one of the greatest actresses of all time, if not the greatest. And Max von Sydow has cemented his legend with work outside of Ingmar's films. And if you love Woody Allen, it's all about Hannh and Her Sisters!! You get the best of both worlds! ;)
Great thread guys! :D |
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| MojjMojj |
I don't know much about Bergman and I don't think I've seen any of his movies, but I'm only 18, soo :)
Well i like Kurosawa, yojimbo and seven samurai's are great. Maybe I love his movies and is more interested in him then other "old" director's cuz I really love Japan :D
"Say anyone that was/is as great as Bergman or Van gogh that wasn't a total nut-case?!" :P |
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| biznology |
well im from the US, but ive studied in Sweden, and can speak some Swedish so i think this thread is really interesting.
my favorite film by Bergman is prolly The Seventh Seal - and its likely the only one I have seen. i think that is great technically in about every regard - not necessarily in theme or application in the modern day. its really a beautiful piece of artwork.
as for more information about Bergman - perhaps not from Swedes - but excellent anyways, would be to try to look for some studies done my one of my ex-professors: Hugh Cohen. he was the head of the film department here at the University of Michigan (and may yet still be) but he is good friends with Scorcese and considered the utmost US scholar on Bergman.
surely you can find something at the UM library page - http://www.lib.umich.edu/mirlyn/mirlynpage.html
hell- if you went to www.umich.edu i bet you could find his email, but im not going to post it here! |
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