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| mikey79 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jizza
i'm no dr. phil here but do you reckon there's some correlation there? i'm not being judgemental either, just thought perhaps maybe you answered your own question... sorry if it comes across a bit damning, its just an observation.
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jizza: Correlation between what? Answered my own question? Are you directing this at me? Cos if you are I'd like to know what you're getting at...
I'm in no way having a go at Paulie for giving up too easily or for expecting it to all happen straight away... That's just natural to expect that after 4 years of hard work that it should be recognised a lot more than it is initially...
From where I came from I knew the only way was up + hard work to get there...
Coming from a Uni degree you would of course expect to already be a step ahead + that things should just fall into place... But that doesn't always happen + persistence is the key... That's the main point I was trying to make... |
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| jizza |
| quote: | Originally posted by mikey79
jizza: Correlation between what? Answered my own question? Are you directing this at me? Cos if you are I'd like to know what you're getting at...
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hmmm nevermind. if you dont see it then perhaps it is no place for me to cast such dispersions. quite reckless of me, i apologise. |
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| GelatinPufF |
| quote: | Originally posted by mikey79
jizza: Correlation between what?
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Bongs + failing school? :tongue2 |
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| Rememberence_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian^
or just find a course for about $480 (if i've converted from pommie pounds right) that will lead u to a job thats underpaid but what u want to do :D |
wot u on about cricket boy? :D |
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| Ian^ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Rememberence_
wot u on about cricket boy? :D |
the fact that I could spend years @ uni doing a degree in masturbation or something, but the jobs I want to don't need a uni degree here (and no that doesn't mean I wanna be a binman)
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| Dr P |
well paulie I studied science majoring in biology and I don't think I have ever worked in that field.
now happily unemployed.
(oh I had 126 job rejections before I landed first real job.) |
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| webmeister |
Research tends to indicate that going to uni and finishing your degree is worse for you in the short term, but over the next 10 years you'll probably be well ahead of those who didn't go to uni.
Once you get to about age 28 or so, you tend to hit this glass ceiling where you can't quite get to the next rung of the ladder because people with degrees come off as better qualified.
I'm not saying this is 100% the case, there are always exceptions to a rule. But it holds true more often than not.
The thing about uni is that it isn't what you learn that's most important. In fact, when you get your first job directly related to your studies, the first thing your employer will probably do is send you on a bunch of training courses. More important to a potential employer is the fact that you've learned to think in a certain way, and to be critical and questioning of the world around you. Also that you've had the dedication and temerity to stick around for 3-5 years of crappy lectures.
I'm probably a pretty good example of this, given that my degree (journalism) is completely unrelated to the job I've been doing for the last 2 years (data analysis and programming).
So the bottom line is, don't regret staying at uni :p |
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| Beemer |
Wot Webby said :) Took all the words right outta my mouth :)
A lot of employers don't look for a specific kind of degree, because they're more interested in the kind of generic skills that come with any degree....u learn a ton of stuff from studying at uni that is useful in pretty much any job situation - and it can often give u the edge over ppl who don't have that piece of paper - because an employer knows they don't have to start from scratch with u - u've already done the basic groundwork, meaning they can put their resources into giving u very specific skill training...
I double majored and did honours in psych......and I'm now working in the public service, kinda sorta in the financey/economy/service delivery field....so I'm using all the generic stuff from my degree, but not really the more specific stuff....it's not that I don't wanna work in psych - it's that I wanted to get out in the real world for a while and get established and earn good money before I go back and do my Masters....and all the stuff I learned how to do at uni is allowing me to do that :) Without having gone to uni, I doubt very much I'd be in as decent a position as I am now.....and I wouldn't have had somebody pay to move me the hell away from Tasmania *lol* So, for me, uni was definitely the right thing.....I haven't regretted it and I'm sure in the long-term u won't either Paulie :)
Yeah it can really suck when employers seem to be mostly looking for ppl with experience.....but, you have to kinda turn it around and make ur lack of practical experience seem like a positive thing. On the applications I sent out after uni, I made a point of saying things like "yes, I realise I don't have a lot of practical experience - but that's because I've devoted the last few years to really applying myself at uni so that I could acquire and develop the skills and personal drive which I know would enable me to be an asset to any employee. now that i've finished uni and acquired those skills, i'm eager to have the opportunity to apply them in practice. if your company gave me this opportunity, i know that i could be an asset to you and help in achieving your goals."
So, it's really a matter of selling yourself in the right way....if u don't necessarily have all the experience they say they're looking for, turn that around and express it in a positive way....don't hide it, and don't ignore it - if ur open and honest about it and tell the employer how ur willing to overcome it, then i bet in a lot of cases they won't dismiss ur application like they would if they just saw u had no experience and u hadn't even bothered to mention that fact in ur application.................that was my approach, and it landed me the first job i applied for after uni (i asked my boss after i'd been in the job a while why they hired me in the first place, and they said the covering letter in my application was so refreshing and honest and well-written that they knew it was worth takin a chance on me....so it DOES help!!)
Hang in there.......don't waste ur time sitting around regretting the things u've already done that u can't change now....work on selling the things u've done positively and using them to ur advantage :) :) |
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