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| Beemer |
| quote: | Originally posted by escee
This doesnt work at all for me. Short naps dont give you any REM sleep which is what your body needs to feel rested. You can only start having REM sleep after being asleep for so long. Or unless your body is used to sleeping like that.
ive read papers which people have studied and attempted to try and sleep 20 minutes every 6 hours. Its thought that eventually your body gets used to these 20 minute naps, and whenever you take you always get REM sleep so you wake up refreshed enough to go on for 6 more hours. I searched on google for a link but cant find one, supposedly a US president did this but i cant remember his name (i think it was abraham lincoln or ben frankin, those 2 names pop up) |
There are just as many studies that show the benefits of power napping though.....a nice lil quote from a site i found - "A nap should be about 15 to 30 minutes in duration. If you nap longer than thirty minutes, your body falls into deep sleep, which is difficult to wake from and when you do, you'll feel groggy (that's why Dali wanted to wake up before he hit REM stage).:
You don't need to have had REM sleep in order to feel rested :) Don't have time to elaborate rite now, and it's been a while since I studied sleeping and dreams at uni......but I'm interested again, so will have a looky around :) |
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| djway |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beemer
There are just as many studies that show the benefits of power napping though.....a nice lil quote from a site i found - "A nap should be about 15 to 30 minutes in duration. If you nap longer than thirty minutes, your body falls into deep sleep, which is difficult to wake from and when you do, you'll feel groggy (that's why Dali wanted to wake up before he hit REM stage).:
You don't need to have had REM sleep in order to feel rested :) Don't have time to elaborate rite now, and it's been a while since I studied sleeping and dreams at uni......but I'm interested again, so will have a looky around :) |
If you only power nap, or have 1 cycle of REM sleep a night, you either get very sleepy every 3 hours and can't function like you haven't slept for 2 days, or fall out of the pattern in a year and 2 months (think that was the figure).
So maybe not in the short term, but the long term REM sleep is needed ;)
Sources from when I read about this months ago k5.org.
(Yes I nearly decided to do the michalengo (think that's who it was) styled sleeping thing).
--djway |
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| Beemer |
| quote: | | Originally posted by djway So maybe not in the short term, but the long term REM sleep is needed ;) |
oh yeah - course it is :) i wasn't sayin u don't need REM sleep at all...it's vital!! was just sayin u don't need to go into REM sleep in order to feel rested - as in, u can feel rested after power naps...precisely because u DON'T go into REM sleep, and therefore don't wake up in the middle of REM....if u have a short nap and wake up before REM, u can feel quite rested - whereas if u nap a bit too long, and are forced to wake up in the middle of REM sleep, ur gonna feel pretty crappy........
mmmm...sleeeeeeep :) :) |
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| Rememberence_ |
so now I'm a type of sleep?
/me wants royalties |
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| skware |
The stuff I've read at various places (don't believe everything you read kiddies :)) says that you need REM sleep for moving short term memory into your longer term memory, and all that. For the purpose of all nighters on occasion the power nap thing is ok, but definitely not a substitute for real sleep on a longer term basis. I find the worst thing with sleep is having a long sleep, but waking up in the middle of a REM cycle. I'd venture a guess why the figure of 8 hours sleep is out there is that by that time your body has actually had a chance to have 2-4 REM periods, and will likely not be in the middle of one when you wake up. You can get away with less, but you always chance that you'll wake yourself up in the middle of one which means that you feel crappy and unrested from the good sleep that you got.
Now the theory is all well and good for people with normal 9-5 jobs, but shiftwork + uni + party attitude to life blows all the theory out of the water. I think in the last couple of months I may have got the amount of sleep that you should get in under a month :(
grrrrrr need sleep :( |
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