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the-sixth
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Paul Oakenfold - Rojam China ID list narrowed down to 130 possibles

This Track - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7GfiGT2m2Y

I have went through every trance and goa record in the year 1999 that I did not recognize.

I also then added every unknown artist or white label with no info in the trance and goa genres I did not recognise

This has brought me to this list of 130 - https://www.discogs.com/lists/Rojam-ID/367219

I would appreciate any help in eliminating any of the tracks on this list (including mixes and B sides).


I'm basing this list on a comment on youtube where someone who claimed to know the name of this track said they had found it on discogs and were waiting for a copy to appear to buy.

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Re: Paul Oakenfold - Rojam China ID list narrowed down to 130 possibles

quote:
Originally posted by the-sixth
This Track - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7GfiGT2m2Y

I have went through every trance and goa record in the year 1999 that I did not recognize.



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The funniest thing about obsessing over these ancient ID's is how the DJ's themselves never seem to give a shit. If I played something amazing I'd certainly keep my hands on it, or at least make a point to sift it out of the clutter years later. But no matter how much you fawn over how amazing a piece of music is in your love letter asking for an ID, you rarely get more of a response than 'dont remeber sry', if you even get one at all.

DJ's are some cold blooded muhfuggaz.


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Let's say that they don't remember... do you really think that somebody like Oakenfold personally will go trough hundreds/thousands of white labels to find your "ID" ? Assuming that they still own that vinyls after almost 20 years ?


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quote:
Originally posted by vampirul_18
Let's say that they don't remember... do you really think that somebody like Oakenfold personally will go trough hundreds/thousands of white labels to find your "ID" ? Assuming that they still own that vinyls after almost 20 years ?


Of course not. And I'm not saying that.

I'm saying you get the impression that DJ's often don't really care one way or the other should they came across something that listeners, on the other hand, will go to great lengths in order to find (like by going through every goa track they don't recognize in the year of 1999). They're up to their elbows in new music each week, so I get why a lone white label from 1999 doesn't stand out as important to them, but it doesn't make the contrast any less amusing to me.

Sometimes it's even the artist. I remember trawling like mad to dig up a copy of a remix Andy Moor and Mick Park did of Garbage- Stupid Girl back in 2004. It was pressed to only a few copies and given out to a handful of DJ's (like to Oakenfold, from whom I ironically heard it). I got in touch with both of them, and Moor just kind of passively remarked he may have a copy hiding somewhere in storage, and Park just told me to check with Moor. There I was, thinking it was the greatest breaks record I ever heard that I refused to give up on finding, and meanwhile the guys who made the thing couldn't seem to care less that it was apparently lost for good.

And then sometimes it works the other way around. I once had an artist contact *me* through Soundcloud asking for a copy of a bootleg remix he did of Pete Lazonby's 'Sacred Cycles,' as he lost his original and all the project files, and saw that my mix was one of the only places to find it. I dragged my feet on getting back to him, but he was insistent as any other ID hunting fan on ensuring I got around to it.

So yeah, different records mean different things to different people, and their importance is obviously built around the other priorities they have in life.


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quote:
Originally posted by Paradox Lost
Of course not. And I'm not saying that.

I'm saying you get the impression that DJ's often don't really care one way or the other should they came across something that listeners, on the other hand, will go to great lengths in order to find (like by going through every goa track they don't recognize in the year of 1999). They're up to their elbows in new music each week, so I get why a lone white label from 1999 doesn't stand out as important to them, but it doesn't make the contrast any less amusing to me.

Sometimes it's even the artist. I remember trawling like mad to dig up a copy of a remix Andy Moor and Mick Park did of Garbage- Stupid Girl back in 2004. It was pressed to only a few copies and given out to a handful of DJ's (like to Oakenfold, from whom I ironically heard it). I got in touch with both of them, and Moor just kind of passively remarked he may have a copy hiding somewhere in storage, and Park just told me to check with Moor. There I was, thinking it was the greatest breaks record I ever heard that I refused to give up on finding, and meanwhile the guys who made the thing couldn't seem to care less that it was apparently lost for good.

And then sometimes it works the other way around. I once had an artist contact *me* through Soundcloud asking for a copy of a bootleg remix he did of Pete Lazonby's 'Sacred Cycles,' as he lost his original and all the project files, and saw that my mix was one of the only places to find it. I dragged my feet on getting back to him, but he was insistent as any other ID hunting fan on ensuring I got around to it.

So yeah, different records mean different things to different people, and their importance is obviously built around the other priorities they have in life.


I concur totally I personally can remember every groove of every vinyl I have but yeah it seems to me most people in the privileged position of getting these sent for free, often months ahead of anyone else just couldn't care less

Oh well

Down to 126 now

Can everyone please look at the list and if there are any names you recognize that you are certain are not the below ID please tell me so I can remove them.

LISt - https://www.discogs.com/lists/Rojam-ID/367219

The ID is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7GfiGT2m2Y

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@the-sixth: have you tried to get a response from DragonsEmerald ?

http://avb.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...28#.Wfn7IGi0PIW

don't know if the guy was trolling or not back then, but it's worth a shot...


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GENUINE. UNIQUE. VARIETY.

Now everything sounds so half assed and follows a certain formula...feels like you're listening to the same track over and over.

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quote:
Originally posted by vampirul_18
@the-sixth: have you tried to get a response from DragonsEmerald ?

http://avb.tranceaddict.com/forum/s...28#.Wfn7IGi0PIW

don't know if the guy was trolling or not back then, but it's worth a shot...


I think this might be the same guy who claimed it was actually on discogs but wouldn't give the name out so he could buy a copy if it ever became for sale.

This is the entire basis for compiling my list on discogs, I have narrowed it down from over 7000 vinyls to 126 left to check.

I just spent 20 euros on an untitled MFS white label so who knows if not then the list goes to 125.

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How do you know this ever even made it to a record?


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quote:
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How do you know this ever even made it to a record?


How else would Oaky have played it in '99? There has to be a few dubplates out there.

But I doubt a dubplate like this will actually find it's way on Discogs (as in, a copy for sale). All the copies in existence probably lie forgotten in a pile among thousands of other records. Real dubplates (ie. probably less than 10-20 copies) almost never end up for sale in discogs.


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