Yeah, the naming and tagging leaves much to be desired.

Still waiting for a commercial player to do it as well as I do on my site.

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Originally posted by basilisk Yeah, the naming and tagging leaves much to be desired. Still waiting for a commercial player to do it as well as I do on my site.

Ektoplazm nails how music should in this day and age from up and coming artists... Free. I might take this moment to thank you Basalisk for getting SO much right compared to digital download stores even beyond being free. Things like proper tagging make ALL the difference.

Has anyone ever bought an album off beatport and noticed: they dont tag with BPM or even track number? No full preview to make sure the track is not total SHIT? And I am paying $2.50 for what again?

Look, I have no problem paying 99 cents for a track. I just wont be ass raped into paying $2.50 and NOT EVEN BEING ABLE TO PREVIEW IT FULLY, just like I would not go out and pay 100$ for a slice of possibly moldy bread.

I wont be ripped off into paying $2.50 for a track, it would not have happened today, and it would not have happened 5 years ago...

Hint to beatport and record labels: treat your customers like shit, and they will find other alternative ways to get your music. This is 2010, time to wake up and smell the coffee.

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Last edited by djnitride on Nov-03-2010 at 02:29

I'm not sure why artists and labels are still even using Beatport at this point, considering there are alternatives out there that are clearly better, like CDBaby and BandCamp. I know Beatport reaches a larger audience, but nothing's going to change if you dumbfucks keep bending over the Beatport for your EDM downloads.

On BandCamp:

- BandCamp only collects 10-15% of track download revenue
- Artists are allowed to price their albums at any rate they want (and make more money off of them, regardless of the price!)
- Full track previews in 320kb formats
- Formats: MP3, AAC, FLAC, OGG, etc.
- Artist page to sell merch and other digital content

Meanwhile on Beatport:

- Beatport collects an estimated 30-40% of track download revenue (the artists get less)
- Tracks are priced at $1.49-$2.49, which is 50-150% over the industry standard price of $.99 set by iTunes. So, based on the facts, the consumers are getting ripped off.
- Track previews are only 2 minutes and sometimes shitty quality
- Formats: MP3, WAV
- Crappy flash-based interface with a shitty search engine. Unless you type the exact name of the track and artist it won't find anything. And the release sorting system sucks balls.

Of course I'll have a few trolls reply to this post trying to defend the FACT (f-a-c-t) that Beatport overprices their music by 150%, but until you guys pull your heads out of your asses, you won't understand.

I agree with Osterzone that artists should promote and distribute the music themselves, instead of having to pay labels to do your work for you.

Domain names are cheap to retain, costs of bandwidth can easily be paid for if your tracks sell somewhat, and you get the satisfaction of running the website yourself and that feeling of independence. Basic HTTP is simple to learn, and you can even use free website design software if you're clueless about website design.

No need to lose money on a 3rd party, 4th party, or 100th party. Pocket all that extra cash, and stop relying on everyone else to do everything for you.

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Originally posted by djnitride Ektoplazm nails how music should in this day and age from up and coming artists... Free. I might take this moment to thank you Basalisk for getting SO much right compared to digital download stores even beyond being free. Things like proper tagging make ALL the difference. Has anyone ever bought an album off beatport and noticed: they dont tag with BPM or even track number? No full preview to make sure the track is not total SHIT? And I am paying $2.50 for what again? Look, I have no problem paying 99 cents for a track. I just wont be ass raped into paying $2.50 and NOT EVEN BEING ABLE TO PREVIEW IT FULLY, just like I would not go out and pay 100$ for a slice of possibly moldy bread. I wont be ripped off into paying $2.50 for a track, it would not have happened today, and it would not have happened 5 years ago... Hint to beatport and record labels: treat your customers like shit, and they will find other alternative ways to get your music. This is 2010, time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Yet another person calling out the overpriced $2.50 price point on Beatport.

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Originally posted by brucelee6783 I agree with Osterzone that artists should promote and distribute the music themselves, instead of having to pay labels to do your work for you. Domain names are cheap to retain, costs of bandwidth can easily be paid for if your tracks sell somewhat, and you get the satisfaction of running the website yourself and that feeling of independence. Basic HTTP is simple to learn, and you can even use free website design software if you're clueless about website design. No need to lose money on a 3rd party, 4th party, or 100th party. Pocket all that extra cash, and stop relying on everyone else to do everything for you.

All well and good, but there's finance institutions (C-card, paypal etc) that need to be supported as well along with a secure site, so its not entirely simple.

The biggest problem though is exposure, ok if you're a named artist with a few hits out there, but for someone starting up it'll be pretty hard to just get the word around. Quite a few artists on the bigger sites I've simply never heard of before I accidentally found them by just browsing through a list of genres and found the odd gem amongst the detritus of of other rubbish.

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Originally posted by Seandroid iTunes is also, much better than Beatport. I know that people on this forum have some sort of thing against iTunes because they feel it's more hip and indie to use Beatport or something, but it's true.

That is precisely why I use Beatport. You got it exactly!

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Just a heads up that everything on Beatport seems to cost £0.79 for me at the moment, and I'm not sure why.

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> Distant Places [Progressive Trance]

I Am Not A Music Journalist.

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Originally posted by Lilith All well and good, but there's finance institutions (C-card, paypal etc) that need to be supported as well along with a secure site, so its not entirely simple.

True, but not insanely hard either.

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The biggest problem though is exposure, ok if you're a named artist with a few hits out there, but for someone starting up it'll be pretty hard to just get the word around. Quite a few artists on the bigger sites I've simply never heard of before I accidentally found them by just browsing through a list of genres and found the odd gem amongst the detritus of of other rubbish.

Promotion is another one of those things that too many DJ's rely on others for.

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Originally posted by Lilith About my only gripe is the utterly dreadful interfaces and lack of track information they all seem to have.

Dreadful is an understatement.

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Originally posted by brucelee6783 Promotion is another one of those things that too many promoters/record labels rely on DJ's for.

fixed

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