it's based, however loosely, on a raymond carver short story - "why don't you dance?" coincidentally, i picked up the collection of shorts that features the story the day before i saw that trailer.
Apr-03-2011 06:36
Taipan
tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: New York
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Originally posted by EgosXII
you seem to have misread what i wrote, and then made my point for me...
If I knew how to make a sig, this would be it...
Apr-03-2011 06:59
stren
YOLOSWAG420PURPLEHAZE
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Danger Zone
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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
looks so fuckin funny
looks better then the first one
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Apr-03-2011 09:01
bamski
vielen dank
Registered: Mar 2006
Location:
What do tigers dream of, when they take a little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her catwoman suit? Don't you worry your pretty striped head we're gonna get you back to Tyson and your cozy tiger bed. And then we're gonna find our bestfriend Doug and then we're gonna give him a bestfriend hug.
Doug, Doug, Oh, Doug Dougie Dougie Doug Doug
But if he's been murdered by crystal meth tweekers, well then we're shit out of luck.
Apr-03-2011 09:08
GoSpeedGo!
no more Mr. Nice Guy
Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory
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Originally posted by DJ RANN
Again, playing devils advocacte, even if I were to agree, and say that Snyder is making a commentary on female inequalities and our post modern perceptions, making a badly acted CGI shitfest, with a poorly conceived story line "aimed to make you see the real statement" is a terrible way to go about it.
No, it's actually a very common practice in satire to blow the thing you want to satirize out of proportion and through this point out its absurdity. I've already hinted at why the film itself is clearly aware of its satirical element, and I don't have to read too much into it to do that. There is a lot of dialogue that supports this interpretation, they are literally telling the viewer how to watch the movie. When there is a close-up on Baby Doll's heels in that first fight with the samurais, the audience always laughs (I've seen the film twice so far). The film tells you it is a satire and it works like a satire, you just have to connect the dots to see the whole picture.
You guys aren't even giving any arguments as to why Sucker Punch doesn't work like a satire, it seems to me you refuse to accept the most basic premise - that Hollywood movies can be more than what they're advertised as.
Apr-03-2011 12:01
EgosXII
Aphorism
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Melbourne
Holy crap, touching the void is intense haha, cheers for recommendation (again, can't remember who recommended it )
the style of the documentary is great, the commentary is hilarious: I thought I was going to die here, but then i was like "ahh, might as well just keep going" love the down-to-earth britts haha
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
No, it's actually a very common practice in satire to blow the thing you want to satirize out of proportion and through this point out its absurdity. I've already hinted at why the film itself is clearly aware of its satirical element, and I don't have to read too much into it to do that. There is a lot of dialogue that supports this interpretation, they are literally telling the viewer how to watch the movie. When there is a close-up on Baby Doll's heels in that first fight with the samurais, the audience always laughs (I've seen the film twice so far). The film tells you it is a satire and it works like a satire, you just have to connect the dots to see the whole picture.
You guys aren't even giving any arguments as to why Sucker Punch doesn't work like a satire, it seems to me you refuse to accept the most basic premise - that Hollywood movies can be more than what they're advertised as.
Man, just read my posts: You're not even arguing about the same thing- We're not talking about what movies are advertised as, we're talking about how they TURN OUT. You're talking about how they're INTENDED to be... what they're intended to be is completely irrelivant, as a number of people have pointed out, so stop talking about that. You're the one talking about how the films are advertised, jacking off to the intellectual premises of films which never even made it into the finished product.
Once again in case you don't get it (again)- we're not talking about what the ads say, or what the director wanted to make the film about- That's you. We're talking about the end result, about the literal content of the film.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
Registered: May 2006
Location: Eisenstein's laboratory
Hahaha, what?!
I'm giving you direct examples of scenes from the movie, from the actual product, that support my interpretation which was then confirmed by the director as a possible reading.
You're the one making utterly unsubstantiated claims and you're disagreeing with me on a movie you probably haven't even watched.
Apr-03-2011 13:28
SYSTEM-J
Second Room Citizen
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Leeds
quote:
Originally posted by EgosXII
Man, just read my posts: You're not even arguing about the same thing- We're not talking about what movies are advertised as, we're talking about how they TURN OUT. You're talking about how they're INTENDED to be... what they're intended to be is completely irrelivant, as a number of people have pointed out, so stop talking about that. You're the one talking about how the films are advertised, jacking off to the intellectual premises of films which never even made it into the finished product.
Once again in case you don't get it (again)- we're not talking about what the ads say, or what the director wanted to make the film about- That's you. We're talking about the end result, about the literal content of the film.
I find it deeply ironic that you're imploring him to "just read your posts" when it's very obvious you're not reading his.
Originally posted by EgosXII
Holy crap, touching the void is intense haha, cheers for recommendation (again, can't remember who recommended it )
the style of the documentary is great, the commentary is hilarious: I thought I was going to die here, but then i was like "ahh, might as well just keep going" love the down-to-earth britts haha
Try Deep Water! Like I said not as exciting but it has a eerie vibe to it.
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Apr-03-2011 18:19
LAdazeNYnights
Crossing Swords
Registered: Nov 2009
Location: Los Angeles, CA
I watched The Twilight Samurai the other night. I may need some more time to digest, but from where I stand now I rank it among my favorite movies. The movie takes place during a time when the Samurai were becoming less important in Japanese culture, seeming to slowly fade out of favor in the increasingly modern world. It was the same time period Kurosawa set The Seven Samurai in. The acting was fantastic, and the story-telling was even stronger. An attentive viewer should become aware of a good deal of symbolism and foreshadowing. All of it was so incredibly subtle though and it's that exact subtly that's totally lacking in most movies today.
Every character in the movie served a real purpose. Even the senile grandmother who spoke in "who are you"s and "I remember you"s added so much depth.
Yowza. Rated it 10/10 on imdb
Bit of a thunderstorm here tonight, though the thunder has abated. Calls for a scary movie! I'm putting on Trick r Treat for the first time - hope it's not too bad
//Trick r Treat was actually gooooooood. I wish they made more horror movies like that.
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Apr-13-2011 06:54
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: between her
quote:
Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
//Trick r Treat was actually gooooooood. I wish they made more horror movies like that.
Do you mean an anthology-style horror film? If so, check out Twilight Zone: The Movie, Tales From The Darkside: The Movie, Creepshow I & II, Body Bags, and Tales From The Hood.
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