Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
It's always a bit confusing to me when someone says something like that. Do folks seriously think that someone spends a few years and 80 million $$$ creating a movie with three distinct realities - an insane asylum, a brothel, and those full-on dream sequences - just because they think it looks cool? Like, there's no other reason for that at all?
The fact that most people watch films at face value is another thing, especially when it comes to these seemingly mindless movies. But that just confirms, how is everyone still very much susceptible to propaganda, even though they think they're media-savvy because they're exposed to so much of it. People can't figure out what they're really being told, especially if it's disguised as something else entirely.
This is also what this movie, or maybe reactions to it, shows. I admit that for these reasons it is more interesting on a meta level than in and of itself, but very interesting nonetheless.
you MIGHT be right in this case, but as hal said, you're extremely naive if you really think every action movie has a heart of gold which most people just 'don't get'.... transformers 2: was that meant to be an ironic comentary on how shit film is? No, it was a fucking useless, shit film which the studio KNEW it would make money off, because people like to see senseless trash.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
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Originally posted by EgosXII
you MIGHT be right in this case, but as hal said, you're extremely naive if you really think every action movie has a heart of gold which most people just 'don't get'.... transformers 2: was that meant to be an ironic comentary on how shit film is? No, it was a fucking useless, shit film which the studio KNEW it would make money off, because people like to see senseless trash.
That's not what I was talking about.
I'm talking about approaching movies with an open mind. So many people think that Snyder, for example, is a dumb bro who has no clue and is like "lol slow-mo and hot chicks r cool", and this clouds their judgement every time they see a new film from him. Or worse, they know for sure the movie is bad just from watching the trailers.
That's anti-intellectualism.
I haven't seen Transformers 2, only have heard of some of its problems (racism, apparently?), but I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as you're trying to describe.
Mar-31-2011 22:09
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essential killing [2010] because it's not ruined with bullshit like dialogue etc.
Apr-01-2011 14:55
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Originally posted by LAdazeNYnights
nobody seems to listen to anybody in this thread lolll i think it's more of a 'talk to yourself' sort of thread
but i'll check it out
I usually download most of the movies recommended.
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Apr-01-2011 17:10
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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
Or worse, they know for sure the movie is bad just from watching the trailers.
I find it quite easy to know a movie sucks from the trailer, the director or from who's in it.
Originally posted by WittyHandle
Pretty crazy story. I wouldn't call it old really, it came out in '04, and doesn't look dated. Unbelievable what they went through. I would've looked for the first cliff I could've dived off of if I was in that situation.
Another movie that I enjoy by the same producers is Deep Water.
Storyline: A documentary about the disastrous 1968 round-the-world yacht race.
Its definately not as visually exciting as touching the void but the story is very dark and tragic.
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Apr-02-2011 00:16
EgosXII
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Location: Melbourne
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Originally posted by GoSpeedGo!
That's not what I was talking about.
I'm talking about approaching movies with an open mind. So many people think that Snyder, for example, is a dumb bro who has no clue and is like "lol slow-mo and hot chicks r cool", and this clouds their judgement every time they see a new film from him. Or worse, they know for sure the movie is bad just from watching the trailers.
That's anti-intellectualism.
I haven't seen Transformers 2, only have heard of some of its problems (racism, apparently?), but I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as you're trying to describe.
It is. There's anti-intellectualism and there's faux-intellectualism. You can warp anything into 'meaningfulness', but that doesn't mean it's there. If you know about film etc, then you must know about post-modernism... Point being: The viewers interpretation is at least as valid as the creators: If the creator entirely failed to convey 'their message' (i'm hesitant to accept that the majority of hollywood blockbusters have any 'hidden' messages), then they have failed, and you can't keep saying there's crap there that other people can't see.
That is faux-intellectualisation of a bullshit film.
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techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
I've been watching a lot of movies lately. Mostly because I'm unemployed and because of my DUI can't drive anywhere for 120 days. Thank God for my unemployment checks. Anyways, I'm going through the list of movies I've seen recently that were rated 4 stars or higher by me. Enjoy!!
And alot of are on Netflix right now =)
Frozen - Quite a tale. 3 Kids get stuck on a ski lift. Some pretty bland dialogue but some gory scenes. Worth Watching!
Canyon - Watched both Canyon and Frozen back to back. Indy films but both of them had a similar component. Canyon was much better though. Hot chick and some unbelievable action. Not for the faint of heart.
The Young Victoria - I love period flicks and this one was damn good if your like historic type movies especially from the golden age of the monarch. I liked this a whole lot because of its sappy story and its meaniful plot.
CUBE & CUBE 2 - WOW! Awesome Flick! It's about a hypercube that morphs and spins and 1/2 dozen people are stuck in it trying to get out. Again some pretty gory scenes but I found it to be very interesting and worth the reccomendation.
Chloe - Ever seen Poison Ivy? This movie stars Julianne More in a proactive sexy drama. Interesting story line with some exceptional sexually charged action scenes. You should totally watch this one.
Suspect Zero - Pyschological Thriller where the FBI has developed a new way of honing in on Serial Killers. Quite an interesting flick with lots to the storyline.
EXAM - HIGHLY HIGHLY RECCOMENDED! About 9 people vying to for a position at a global corporation where all their problems will be soled. They're put in a room with explicit instructions and what happens throughout the rest of the movie was just awesomeness! Definitely a watch!!
Like I said I've watched all these within the last month or so all the storylines are pretty fresh and so is my opinion. They're also all available currently on Netflix to stream so you should be able to watch them now. I enjoyed all of these lots so do check em out =)
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Apr-02-2011 00:34
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I guessed no one liked Exi8t through the gift shop that I mentioned.
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Apr-02-2011 06:03
EgosXII
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I guessed no one liked Exi8t through the gift shop that I mentioned.
I got it from your suggestion, but didn't end up watching it
I decided banksy seems like a douche so cbf spending time watching him
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techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
Originally posted by EgosXII
I got it from your suggestion, but didn't end up watching it
I decided banksy seems like a douche so cbf spending time watching him
Wrong Banksy wasn't a douche when this film was made, it was Mister Brain Wash that was the real douche. I can't say much for Bansky now but during this film the art and talent was extreme.
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Apr-02-2011 06:19
EgosXII
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Originally posted by Desiderata
Wrong Banksy wasn't a douche when this film was made, it was Mister Brain Wash that was the real douche. I can't say much for Bansky now but during this film the art and talent was extreme.
Yeah, I didn't watch it so my conception of him as a douche comes from nowhere, definitely not the film itself-- I'm sure i'll get it again and actually give it a go, was busy when I got it and then needed disk space so deleted it
will get it again down the track- I watched a number of youtube clips from it and it does look good
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techno is like edm, just with all the good bits taken out.
