-Do you believe in God for other reasons than rational arguments? why? what is the role of faith in this context? what kind of things can we have faith in?

-If you DONT believe in God, why not? can you give reasons to support the claim that God does not exist, or that we shouldn't care about the question?

-Is the notion of an omniscient, omnipotent & benevolent God compatible with pain and suffering, regardless if the pain/suffering is caused by human free will or by natural causes. Why or why not?


yeah i have to write a paper. i can think for myself but its always nice to hear other peoples opinions

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im an existential atheist. whether there is a god or not, it doesnt matter because we're just a speck in the universe.

have a wonderful day

As far as Im concerned... everything that is associated with God, is also associated with people and no proof of anything happening or existing. I consider the entire bible a series of folk tales told to the masses to scare them into believing something that might not exist in a ploy to control them.

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Originally posted by Coup Vlad wins. Flawless victory.

100% atheist. reason? i was raised french catholic.... enough said on that topic. ive sat through enough catholic masses to realize the sheer and utter bullshit that is the catholic church. imo religion is the single most abused concept int he world.... and bush thinks the US has a drug problem....

im going to start my own religion... called colonelcrispasism...... all ordained ministers will be dj's....except tiesto and armin.... they have already been excommunicated based on the fact taht i dont like them.

communion will be replaced with class A's, and i think we should do it 3 to 4 times every sunday as opposed to just once.

my religion will preach equality and fairness, without bias on race, gender, previous religion etc..... all fans of EDM are welcome to join... except people who actually like hip hop, and junglists can stay away too....

and then..... when the sun and venus are aligned... we all drink the koolaid.....

meh fuck it starting your own cult.... err i mean religion, is too much work

im just going to stick with being an athiest.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by Vlad As far as Im concerned... everything that is associated with God, is also associated with people and no proof of anything happening or existing. I consider the entire bible a series of folk tales told to the masses to scare them into believing something that might not exist in a ploy to control them.

..that's exactly what the church did in the crusades. created all the gimmics so people would be catholic/christian.

not to give lectures or anything, but a shittload of that propaganda still exists today! and i laugh at it

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Originally posted by D-res -If you DONT believe in God, why not?

It doesn't seem logical to me. I cannot force myself to believe in something or not. I either believe in something or I don't. I could go to church and pray, but it would only be a sham because down deep I would know I would be lying to myself.

Im a vegetarian that eats meat in my spare time

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ Im a vegetarian that eats meat in my spare time

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Originally posted by PaperBag831 im an existential atheist. whether there is a god or not, it doesnt matter because we're just a speck in the universe. have a wonderful day

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Originally posted by Vlad As far as Im concerned... everything that is associated with God, is also associated with people and no proof of anything happening or existing. I consider the entire bible a series of folk tales told to the masses to scare them into believing something that might not exist in a ploy to control them.

Damnnnnn. You Jews are faithless.

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Originally posted by jonSun Damnnnnn. You Jews are faithless.

ask any jew if they like being jewish: "yea, its neet!"
ask any jew if they believe in god: "HELL NO"


im obviously not speaking for the religious ones.. but they only make up 10% of the faith

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Originally posted by Xenocreator_PG_ Im a vegetarian that eats meat in my spare time

im a level 4 veagan. i dont eat anything that casts a shadow.

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Originally posted by D-res -Do you believe in God for other reasons than rational arguments? why? what is the role of faith in this context? what kind of things can we have faith in?

in aditional to ratial arguments, i do not believe in god becuase not only do i not see miracles, instead i see masses of people getting hurt. thr role of faith in this context is to have faith in humanity. we need to look to eachother and in ourselves. the able should acknowledge this and help.

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Originally posted by D-res -If you DONT believe in God, why not? can you give reasons to support the claim that God does not exist, or that we shouldn't care about the question?

i dont believe in god because of proof. i take things at face value and treat life with my experiences. the means is what i look to, not the end. i do not try to give reasons that i dont believe god exists, its fine with me that way and its fine if you believe. what matters is if we can live together knowing this.

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Originally posted by D-res -Is the notion of an omniscient, omnipotent & benevolent God compatible with pain and suffering, regardless if the pain/suffering is caused by human free will or by natural causes. Why or why not?

i dont think its compatible. the pain and suffering far outweighs what good we have done, via sin or not. study history. pre-jesus was worst than a.d. the crusades my god. free will in my book, humans can be nasty as bitches. so fuck godamn shit.

srry i went from academic to "colorfully vulgur" because im in a hurry now to get to class its all your fault if im late.

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