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chlola
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Registered: Jul 2009
Location: City Of Angels

quote:
Originally posted by knowhope
Anyone else get the feeling they lost "something" right after the first use of marijuana?

My memory was much better before smoking. My attention was better before smoking and etc. I believe that marijuana gives you permanent damage.

I need some loving and comfort.


I rarely smoke... but when I do it's the GOOD SHIT.
But ya... Ideally none is better than some.


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quote:
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Why not just ban the whiny bitches instead?

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LinX
On A New York City Night



Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Chicago, IL

im fuckin LIT.. goin to bed (throws his dubs in the sky)

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OMG Hai2U!



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Smoking ..umm..something Vapourizers

Hokay, so...

Way back in late November, I finally got around to purchasing a vapourizer. I bought a $200 model called the Arizer V-tower. I wanted to share my experience with it so far with all of my fellow cOr Chronosieurrs.

I bought it in late November, and used up what little weed I had at the time. On Dec 1, 2010, I bought a half ounce. A half-ounce under normal circumstances will last me 3-4 weeks, smoking anywhere from .5g-2g per day.

As of tomorrow, March 19 2011, I will be finishing that half ounce.

Holy fuck.

I knew that vapes would help me save weed and make it last longer, but I had no idea just how efficient they really are when compared to smoking. What's more, I can be even MORE efficient than I am. On a few occasions I went out to blaze with friends and since we were smoking, used much more weed than vaping would have used. I could have easily made it to April on a half ounce.

In addition to that, my vape has a digital temperature control. This is very useful because weed has a number of different cannabinoids that all have different effects (generalized as: stimulant/suppressant). Given the nature of those chemicals and at what temp they will actually vapourize, this gives me control over the TYPE of high that I want in the moment, be it a more stimulating energetic high (180C) or a more couch-lock standard high (230C). What this also means is that IF I vape at a lower temp, I can re-vape later on at the higher temp for a more drowsy high (vape at 180 during the day when I'm active, re-vape at 230 at night before bed). This is absolutely amazing to me, and I'm enjoying it very much.

Lastly, I want to point out just how much MORE high I get by using the vape. I mentioned earlier that I would smoke .5g-2g per day, these were always in .5g "doses" to get the desired high. Using my vape, I can not use up a .5 in the bowl... I can't even come close. I get SO high, that I have to stop myself and I can get high again later on to finish it off (regardless of temperature the first-sesh happens at). Mind you, I grab premium bud, so just how much you need to get high will depend on quality, regardless, it WILL get you more high.

To anybody out there on the fence about getting a vape, having a hard time justifying the cost, or who wants one but may have heard you have to get a $600 Volcano because every other model sucks, I want to recommend that you look into the Arizer V-Tower. For $200 or $300 (depending on whether you want a vape bag or not), you can get an amazing vapourizer that comes with a fucking warranty, and works just as well as the Volcano. It pays for itself incredibly quickly (half ounce costs me $140, vape was $200 and I've been able to skip 3.8 grabs = $320 savings), and the act of vapourizing your weed eliminates almost all of the carcinogens and other harmful effects on your lungs.

Highly recommended!


___________________
Captain Planet is gey.
Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Heart???
These forces are supposed to combine to create Captain Planet?
Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

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emc^2
FCK MNML



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: 255.255.255.255

^^^^

sorry babe, this is THE ONLY WAY TO FLY:



btw - u know u can take those burned weed brownies - collect enough of them, throw in the oil for 30 minutes, drain through cheese cloth or smth like that. make brownies with that oil:

1 cp flour
1 cp sugar
10 0z chocolate
1 tbsp soda
1 tbsp salt
1.5 cup of crisco or equivalent
3 eggs

about 5g of cooked weed cake from vaporizer(save them up!)

throw burned pieces into pot, pour oil and simmer (no bubbling) for about 30 mins

strain oil

now, melt 10 oz of chocolate, mix weed oil in. once smooth, let cool.

Once cool, add salt, flour, baking soda, eggs and mix it all up with cocolate. Tip: if you add more chunks of chocolate, your brownie will be more smooth with chocolatey cubes of cream. Or you can also add walnut for some crunch! Whatever you add, Once smooth, ad chocolate chunks or walnuts (to taste), mix them in.

line 8x8 baking pan with aluminum foil. Pour your brownie mix in and stick in the oven set to 325F and let cook for about 30 - 40 mins. When top is "glassy" (doesn't look like musse) - pull out and let cool. (about 1 hr in freezer)

Once cool, slice into 16 pieces! YES!!! 16! and enjoy 1 yes 1 piece. you may think it's little but trust me - about 2 hrs later you'll be off your tits for about 7 hours... woot. still chillin from my brownie, ingested around 4pm and now it's 11:10. But I did add a bowl or two about an hour ago... soooooooooooo buzzzzzin!


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No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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OMG Hai2U!



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

Uh... no.

At 225 degrees Celsius, all of the active chemicals in marijuana are burned away. Any left-overs will be trace amounts that I really couldn't care less about saving up for brownies. Maybe it's the chef in me, but when I want to make brownies, I use fresh product.

But, is that a nitrous canister?

WANT!


___________________
Captain Planet is gey.
Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Heart???
These forces are supposed to combine to create Captain Planet?
Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

Old Post Mar-19-2011 05:39  Canada
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chlola
Senior tranceaddict



Registered: Jul 2009
Location: City Of Angels

..crumbling it up


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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Why not just ban the whiny bitches instead?

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emc^2
FCK MNML



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: 255.255.255.255

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Uh... no.

At 225 degrees Celsius, all of the active chemicals in marijuana are burned away. Any left-overs will be trace amounts that I really couldn't care less about saving up for brownies. Maybe it's the chef in me, but when I want to make brownies, I use fresh product.

But, is that a nitrous canister?

WANT!


LOL, what? 325F - farenheit, not celcius. That's 162 C. And it's a Vapir NO2 vaporizer - not nitrous cannister. And as far as using fresh product - sure. However, some of us, cheap bastard like to recycle.

Either way, FLAME ON, WAYNE! FLAME ON, GARTH!


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quote:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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OMG Hai2U!



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
LOL, what? 325F - farenheit, not celcius. That's 162 C. And it's a Vapir NO2 vaporizer - not nitrous cannister. And as far as using fresh product - sure. However, some of us, cheap bastard like to recycle.

Either way, FLAME ON, WAYNE! FLAME ON, GARTH!


No. 225 degrees celcius.

If you're burning at 162, you're only getting about 1 third of the chemicals activated. THC itself boils at 157, so 162 would be the prime candidate to get ONLY the THC out of the weed. But you're leaving a whole collection of other active cannabinoids behind.

quote:
Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

Δ-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV)
Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant





Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties

β-myrcene
Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic

β-caryophyllene
Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial

d-limonene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic

linalool
Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator

pulegone
Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic

1,8-cineole (eucalyptol)
Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive

α-pinene
Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor

α-terpineol
Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial

terpineol-4-ol
Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic

p-cymene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor

borneol
Boiling point: 210*C / 410 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic

Δ-3-carene
Boiling point: 168*C / 334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory





Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties

apigenin
Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic

quercetin
Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic

cannflavin A
Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor

β-sitosterol
Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-α-reductase, inhibitor


You can see that there are quite a few sedatives a stimulant, and a euphoriant, that are NOT activated at 162 degrees. Mostly sedatives, which is why I will often burn at a lower temp (170-180, usually 180 for convenience) for that more energetic high, and then finish if off later at 230 to kill all the sedatives in the weed before bed.


___________________
Captain Planet is gey.
Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Heart???
These forces are supposed to combine to create Captain Planet?
Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

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emc^2
FCK MNML



Registered: Mar 2005
Location: 255.255.255.255

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
No. 225 degrees celcius.

If you're burning at 162, you're only getting about 1 third of the chemicals activated. THC itself boils at 157, so 162 would be the prime candidate to get ONLY the THC out of the weed. But you're leaving a whole collection of other active cannabinoids behind.



You can see that there are quite a few sedatives a stimulant, and a euphoriant, that are NOT activated at 162 degrees. Mostly sedatives, which is why I will often burn at a lower temp (170-180, usually 180 for convenience) for that more energetic high, and then finish if off later at 230 to kill all the sedatives in the weed before bed.

edit: nvm, read your thread concentrated now. gotcha. that's some good info... lol@all "good" ingredients. I should tell my girl that reason I'm smoking so that I can be healthy. See honey - everyone got sick this winter, except me... why??? BECAUSE I'M TOKIN and it activates all these antiviral shit that keeps me HEALTHY (and horny).

yai SCIENCE!


___________________
quote:
No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don’t want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

--Steve Jobs (1955 - 2011)

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Big Worm
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Mar 2009
Location: Alpharetta, GA

quote:
Originally posted by knowhope
Anyone else get the feeling they lost "something" right after the first use of marijuana?

My memory was much better before smoking. My attention was better before smoking and etc. I believe that marijuana gives you permanent damage.

I need some loving and comfort.


i used to be a heavy burner...

i haven't smoked in quite a while (although i love weed), but i can tell you that it takes a few weeks of abstinence from toking, and you will see. your memory will be back good as new.

guaranteed.

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OMG Hai2U!



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Mississauga, Ontario

quote:
Originally posted by emc^2
edit: nvm, read your thread concentrated now. gotcha. that's some good info... lol@all "good" ingredients. I should tell my girl that reason I'm smoking so that I can be healthy. See honey - everyone got sick this winter, except me... why??? BECAUSE I'M TOKIN and it activates all these antiviral shit that keeps me HEALTHY (and horny).

yai SCIENCE!



'Sall good meng, I figured you were just high as fuck and not really reading my posts to begin with

Happy burnin'


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Captain Planet is gey.
Water, Fire, Earth, Wind, Heart???
These forces are supposed to combine to create Captain Planet?
Bullshit.
Those forces combine to create a soaking, boiling mudstorm on Valentine's Day.

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st3nc
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: sha'el-kun

joint rolled, spoon bowl packed, diffuser bong packed, blunt rolled

my lungs are about to stick together

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