My father has been driving fiats for as long as i can remember, the last 5 or so that i can remember there wasn't any problem with them ever. Not a thing went wrong, and i can say the same for my aunt, my uncle and my cousin. It may be that its just my family that has excellent luck with fiats but that would have to be quite a big coincidence (ok so i lied a bit, my aunt had a problem with her punto 7 years ago. The seat got stuck and she coudnt move it forward or backward. 5 minutes of work under warranty of course and it was fixed). In fact im thinking of buying the new punto grande myself as in most cases people just cant shut up about how great that car is especially when paired with a 1.9JTD diesel engine...say what you want about their build quality but fiats diesel engines don't break...ever (my friend put his punto head on into a tree and the thing still worked even though by all laws of probability it shouldn't ). I would put them just behind BMWs diesel engines and as far as im concerned they are probably the best available today (ever driven a 535d?).
And while alfas used to be really bad (they were based on the fiat drivetrain but because they were meant to be sporty it didn't really work out that well, you cant make the car all it could be under a tight budget) but ever since the 156 came out they became much more reliable. 166 and 147 rarely brake down as it is and as far as the new 159 goes in addition to being probably the second best looking car on the roads today is also getting great reviews about the build quality which is apparently as good as its german rivals in the segment (a4, C class, 3 series). Also i know 3 people with the 3.2 Q4 version and they are driving them as alfas are meant to be driven (very hard, very fast and if at all possible sideways) and they haven't broken down yet. Italians are getting good at things other than looks

As for Korean quality, you do realize that Hyundai is ranked just after Porsche and lexus on the reliability issue and they are apparently the most reliable brands out there (i would look for the study to show it to you but ive been beaten up pretty badly by my martial arts instructor today and my body aches to much so im going to sleep now )

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This has to be the best coragraphy I have seen!! and yeah I know I misspelled, leave a mexican alone, Puff the Magic Dragon... ha ha ha

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Originally posted by LazFX This has to be the best coragraphy I have seen!! and yeah I know I misspelled, leave a mexican alone, Puff the Magic Dragon... ha ha ha

That was ace!!!

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Originally posted by Dervish That was ace!!!

Wow, sure was for an amatuer production they did great!


On cars, nothing will ever make me more nervous than getting into a 1990's Hyundi, or god forbid a Kia
Theyre deathtraps.


I found this on youtube while trawling up a song for Shaolin_Noob
It's an electro remix of The Sisters of Mercy - Alice that I'd not seen before...


So cool! <3

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Originally posted by Lilith Wow, sure was for an amatuer production they did great! On cars, nothing will ever make me more nervous than getting into a 1990's Hyundi, or god forbid a Kia Theyre deathtraps. I found this on youtube while trawling up a song for Shaolin_Noob It's an electro remix of The Sisters of Mercy - Alice that I'd not seen before... So cool! <3

Sweet tune!!

Hey I got that in 12" on a test pressing, me thinks......... let me check...........

lol, anyone else seen arbiter's campaign blog for the COR whore off?
link

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

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Originally posted by Lilith Wow, sure was for an amatuer production they did great! On cars, nothing will ever make me more nervous than getting into a 1990's Hyundi, or god forbid a Kia Theyre deathtraps. I found this on youtube while trawling up a song for Shaolin_Noob It's an electro remix of The Sisters of Mercy - Alice that I'd not seen before... So cool! <3

Did they shoot that at the same time as Corrosion??!
They must have, they're both wearing the same clothes and the set is exactly the same.

I've never seen this video before either...great find!

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."

Seems to be a mash up of a lot of footage of film clips from the 'Floodland' album era or earlier and some from the later hard rock era of 'Vision Thing'
Alice the song is a really old one from about 1982-3ish

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Originally posted by venomX lol, anyone else seen arbiter's campaign blog for the COR whore off? link

Haha, I'm having quite a bit of fun with it as sort of a parody of a real political campaign.

edit- too early for sarcasm and someone will get haughty over it...

2nd edit- shaolin, your damn inbox is full

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^^^ All right, I just deleted a bunch of stuff from there.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

I haven't heard this or any grundge/hard rock in ages, good stuff:





EDIT: I think it was one of Nick Warren's or Danny Howell's old essential mixes, and he did an awesome job of throwing a remix of some Perl Jam songs in there set somewhere, I think it was better man or Daughter. Then I had to go hunt this song down and post it here .

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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