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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the difference is that i KNOW im an arrogant fuck but its not my immediate tendency to accuse someone of being a sheeple/agent just because they disagree with me. dont try and paint me the same colour as the CT peddlers, i am more than open for opposing viewpoints and have been corrected by many people here (including your good self) about all kinds of topics. these cocksuckers are still going on about no plane hitting the pentagon and accuse everyone that knows differently of being ignorant shills.

that takes a special kind of arrogance. somehow only they know the truth and the whole world knows less than them blah blah fuck off.


Heh, get over yourself. It was your asinine and unwarranted comment about people in this forum that garnered my response.

Maybe you didn't notice that the Official Story's account and flight path of 77 are FALSIFIED.

Oy vey.


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It takes a special kind of stupid...

Im still waiting on your ilk to tell us where all the passengers from flight 77 came from if not from flight 77 how did those passengers last seen boarding flight 77 end up in the pentagon and where did the plane go? keep talking about flightpaths and look like an idiot!

yeah, the evil government crept in and deposited all those dead bodies, even strapping them into plane seats that they also managed to sneak onto the scene.

grow the fuck up tosser.


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{b.s.e.}
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Grow up, what does that infer? I think human growth hormones are still in the experimental phases, and the long term affects can't be accounted for. There are enough Barry Bonds in this world, already.

Flight 77 disappeared off radar before resuming its path to the Pentagon. Fact. That accounts for something, but naturally.. no one was there to take pictures for you. A shame.


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Grow up, what does that infer?


YOU infer, i IMPLY. what are they teaching you kids at school these days?


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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
YOU infer, i IMPLY. what are they teaching you kids at school these days?


in⋅fer
   /ɪnˈfɜr/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-fur] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -ferred, -fer⋅ring.
–verb (used with object)
1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.
2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.
3. to guess; speculate; surmise.
4. to hint; imply; suggest.

As in, what are you inferring?

___edit__
Albeit, you're right.


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{b.s.e.}
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If you want to get into some sort of childish game of wits, I'll spank you like you paid for it.


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quote:
Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
in⋅fer
   /ɪnˈfɜr/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [in-fur] Show IPA Pronunciation
verb, -ferred, -fer⋅ring.
–verb (used with object)
1. to derive by reasoning; conclude or judge from premises or evidence: They inferred his displeasure from his cool tone of voice.
2. (of facts, circumstances, statements, etc.) to indicate or involve as a conclusion; lead to.
3. to guess; speculate; surmise.
4. to hint; imply; suggest.

As in, what are you inferring?


ugh. are you really that simple?

the listener (or in this case the reader) infers. the speaker does not infer. when i tell you to grow up, i am not making an inference. it is you, the reader that infers the meaning of the statement.

back to school for you champ because people with real educations don't make such obvious errors. no wonder you can't read and understand evidence properly!


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{b.s.e.}
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quote:
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ugh. are you really that simple?

the listener (or in this case the reader) infers. the speaker does not infer. when i tell you to grow up, i am not making an inference. it is you, the reader that infers the meaning of the statement.

back to school for you champ, because people with real educations don't make such obvious errors. no wonder you can't read and understand evidence properly!


? You're a twit, and splitting hairs. Anyone is inclined to an error, as to err is to be human; unless of course, I'm out of the loop. I edit fourth year psychology papers for my girlfriend, I have absolutely no issues with my command of the English language. You might as well keep your pseudo-elitist diatribe to yourself, and come back with some sentence structure.

You [naturally] left out my edit, where I agreed I was in error.

You have no sense of common decency. A rather shallow, uninteresting sport.


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We might as well make sixteenths out of eighths. When are you going to address the Black Box?


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When are you going to address the Black Box?


as soon as your ilk provide a plausible explanation for how the passengers and crew from flight 77 ended up in the pentagon. 7 years and still waiting.....


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as soon as your ilk provide a plausible explanation for how the passengers and crew from flight 77 ended up in the pentagon. 7 years and still waiting.....


* Total passengers: 64
* Passengers involved in gov’t/defense related work: 21
* Senior staff/directors/managers: 18
* Military backgrounds: 10
* Navy background: 7
* Executives/chief officers/presidents: 5
* Men: 30
* Women: 24
* Kids: 5
* Non-hijacker passengers: 59
* Alleged Hijackers*: 5

Is it just coincidence that most of the passengers on Flight 77 with military backgrounds were Navy and that the crash at the Pentagon happened in the Navy's command center, which took the heaviest casualties? Why was most of the plane destroyed, but so many body parts found?


Why did the plane disappear off radar for 8 minutes and 13 seconds?
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From http://www.team8plus.org/the-moveme...r/flight_77.htm
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American 77 began deviating from its flight plan at 8:54, with a slight turn toward the south. Two minutes later, it disappeared completely from radar at Indianapolis Center, which was controlling the flight.138

The controller tracking American 77 told us he noticed the aircraft turning to the southwest, and then saw the data disappear. The controller looked for primary radar returns. He searched along the plane's projected flight path and the airspace to the southwest where it had started to turn. No primary targets appeared. He tried the radios, first calling the aircraft directly, then the air-line. Again there was nothing. At this point, the Indianapolis controller had no knowledge of the situation in New York. He did not know that other aircraft had been hijacked. He believed American 77 had experienced serious electrical or mechanical failure, or both, and was gone.139

The failure to find a primary radar return for American 77 led us to investigate this issue further. Radar reconstructions performed after 9/11 reveal that FAA radar equipment tracked the flight from the moment its transponder was turned off at 8:56. But for 8 minutes and 13 seconds, between 8:56 and 9:05, this primary radar information on American 77 was not displayed to controllers at Indianapolis Center.142 The reasons are technical, arising from the way the software processed radar information, as well as from poor primary radar coverage where American 77 was flying.

According to the radar reconstruction, American 77 re-emerged as a primary target on Indianapolis Center radar scopes at 9:05, east of its last known position. The target remained in Indianapolis Center's airspace for another six minutes, then crossed into the western portion of Washington Center's airspace at 9:10.As Indianapolis Center continued searching for the aircraft, two managers and the controller responsible for American 77 looked to the west and southwest along the flight's projected path, not east-where the aircraft was now heading. Managers did not instruct other controllers at Indianapolis Center to turn on their primary radar coverage to join in the search for American 77.143

This completely contradicts the testimony of Col. Alan Scott at the 2nd hearing of the Commission (9-11 commission hearing, 23rd May 2003)

"And at about that same time, kind of way out in the West, is when America 77, which in the meantime has turned off its transponder and turned left back toward Washington, appears back in radar coverage. And my understanding is the FAA controllers now are beginning to pick up primary skin paints on an airplane, and they don't know exactly whether that is 77, and they are asking a lot of people whether it is, including an a C-130 that is westbound toward Ohio."

Download and view the Flytecomm video from http://irvingshapiro.tripod.com/cgi...crashother.avi. You will see that Flight 77 actually did reappear to the West. If this radar track (labelled by the FAA with the Flight 77 data block) is Flight 77, then it cannot have hit the Pentagon. The timeline simply does not allow it.


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that's not an answer to my question, not that im surprised.


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