^^^ salvia is nasty anyways.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z ^^^ salvia is nasty anyways.

fuk yeah!! I tried that shit back in the early 90's you kids are so behind the times. ... and it made me feel like crap, plus the 15min blank in my time frame..... fuck that... rather stick a glowing hot needle in my dick hole than do that stupid shit ever again.......

Something from my past.....



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This would be the perfect book for you, pkcRAISTLIN.

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Originally posted by LazFX fuk yeah!! I tried that shit back in the early 90's you kids are so behind the times. ... and it made me feel like crap, plus the 15min blank in my time frame..... fuck that... rather stick a glowing hot needle in my dick hole than do that stupid shit ever again.......

Yeah, Salvia's supposed to be a really strong hallcuninogen with a quick peak and very little duration. I actually didn't really hallucinate. The first time I did it, it just totally confused the fuck out of me then I blacked out for a bit... and return to my state of confusion, followed by feeling nauseous. The other time I did it was after taking 4.5 grams of mushrooms... and it totally ruined the trip. I've actually never hallucinated or had my perception significantly altered on any psychoactive chemicals yet. Granted I haven't done acid or DMT, but I've sort of lost interest in most drugs, happened a while back. Most drugs, I'd argue all drugs, eventually have diminishing returns (not to mention most of them kinda suck). And most of them really need to be taken in the right conditions. But DMT still does sound pretty interesting... haven't completely written that one off, but I don't really have much incentive to do it eigther. Pot is the only drug that I actually think is "good" (I've done speed, coke, ex, mushrooms... no over the counter pharmacueticals, that's just fucking retarded in my opinion). But I try avoid all drugs out of principle now, and have for the last couple of years or so.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

just watching crackhead kids on Youtube doing salvia is plenty for me. rather do acid if i'm gonna f**k myself up that bad. took too much of that crap (acid) back in the day, made my brain all smooooth.

nayways. Super Bad Ass Bionic Walker thing:



so bad ass.

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Yeah, Salvia's supposed to be a really strong hallcuninogen with a quick peak and very little duration. I actually didn't really hallucinate. The first time I did it, it just totally confused the fuck out of me then I blacked out for a bit... and return to my state of confusion, followed by feeling nauseous. The other time I did it was after taking 4.5 grams of mushrooms... and it totally ruined the trip. I've actually never hallucinated or had my perception significantly altered on any psychoactive chemicals yet. Granted I haven't done acid or DMT, but I've sort of lost interest in most drugs, happened a while back. Most drugs, I'd argue all drugs, eventually have diminishing returns (not to mention most of them kinda suck). And most of them really need to be taken in the right conditions. But DMT still does sound pretty interesting... haven't completely written that one off, but I don't really have much incentive to do it eigther. Pot is the only drug that I actually think is "good" (I've done speed, coke, ex, mushrooms... no over the counter pharmacueticals, that's just fucking retarded in my opinion). But I try avoid all drugs out of principle now, and have for the last couple of years or so.

If you do it right the Salvia experience is very close to DMT, and both of them make acid look like Tylenol.

If you did do it right and you aren't an experienced psychonaut then the 'blackout' may actually be repressed memories because the experience is very traumatic to say the least.

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Originally posted by Zild If you do it right the Salvia experience is very close to DMT, and both of them make acid look like Tylenol. If you did do it right and you aren't an experienced psychonaut then the 'blackout' may actually be repressed memories because the experience is very traumatic to say the least.

I am by no means an experienced psychonaut. I'm relatively new to the concept actually. Although I'm seriously considering meditaiton (in combination with qi gung, by not for the same purpose ofcourse). A friend of mine, who's an ex-mason but has a very Jungian view on divination amongst other esoteric studies, told me that psychoactives actually distort your perception as opposed to induction via meditation where you have complete clarity; essentially he said it's a cheap short-cut. I'm starting meditation and qi gung for other reasons, but I'm guessing I still have a ways to go before I can meditatively induce the same state. Yeah, you're probably right about that as I do have a fair number of rather unpleasant memories. Plus, I subconciously tend to push things in the back of my mind to prevent an overload if the situation is overwhelming (and I don't have the energy to fully deal with it, or to simply divide it in to more managable blocks)...

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

Salvia is crazy. The stuff had me drooling for 5 minutes like a retard on krack. I was seeing linked up ducks which were attached to my arms, and everytime I moved my arms, it felt like I was tied up...by a chain of ducks...insane...I know...stupid too though...

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Originally posted by Krypton Salvia is crazy. The stuff had me drooling for 5 minutes like a retard on krack. I was seeing linked up ducks which were attached to my arms, and everytime I moved my arms, it felt like I was tied up...by a chain of ducks...insane...I know...stupid too though...

LOL @ chain of ducks.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z LOL @ chain of ducks.

I can try to describe an experience I had but it won't make any sense. Part of it was that I was a small part of a giant wheel created by humans stitched together sort of like Siamese twins. My mother and father were on either side of me and others I know were farther down the line. The size of the wheel was immense as it appeared flat like the earth but I still knew it was a wheel because one second I was at the top then the next I was at the bottom and we were going around and around. I stuck my arm out and grabbed onto a white curtain or veil and held on for dear life. Of course this didn't save me from the wheel it only ripped the veil down as I was again dragged down to the bottom of the wheel exposing 'the way things really are' as the entities I was telepathically communicating with told me. They said I fucked everything up. Then I was taken back to what I thought was my friend's apartment and as soon as I hit the ground the entities asked me if I was ready. I immediately thought ready for what? As soon as I thought this I was pushed through the floor and as I went through the floor I dropped back down into the room from the ceiling. This felt like I was actually having my body shoved through a small piece of flooring. Essentially it HURT. They asked me if I was ready again and before I could say fuck no they pushed me down through the floor and back out of the ceiling again and then kept doing it until I decided to bolt towards the front door. So as I bolt for the front door my body somehow is connected with the whole room on some sort of zipper lines. The room is unzipping itself as I run out the front door and immediately re enter the room from the backdoor as it zips itself back up. The truly strange thing though is that it wasn't until about 10-15 minutes later when I came out of the hallucination a little and saw my friends holding me down (the TV was talking to me still) that I realized I had taken salvia. For the entire experience I just thought hey this is how it really is and this is how it is going to be like forever. I wasn't thinking hey I just did some salvis so I'm tripping out right now. It felt like fifteen years instead of fifteen minutes. That will give you a decent idea of what it is like but really there are no words in any language to actually describe the experience.

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