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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
ahhh good old Boondocks.....

I have a nigga moment every day. lol

Haha, yeah, living on riverside that isn't too hard to run in to , I'm moving away from this dump though, closer to central/downtown, which would be right between work and school.


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Moongoose
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Location: Celje, Slovenia

If this is true, would anyone like to explain to me just why am i busting my ass at the university for a degree and thinking about going for another one a bit later on, just so i could at some point have enough money that i wont need to look after every single euro i spend, when i could be making a quater of a million a year by washing windows

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

^^^ LOL, that's awesome.


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

A little something I came across...


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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As much as I dislike the guy, Michael Moore made some excellent points about fear and consumption in Bowling For Columbine.


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Lira
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Cognitive Dissonance -- Why it's hard to admit to being wrong

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We all have a hard time admitting that we're wrong, but according to a new book about human psychology, it's not entirely our fault. Social psychologist Elliot Aronson and co-author Carol Tavris say our brains work hard to make us think we are doing the right thing, even in the face of sometimes overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Title: Mistakes Were Made (But Not By Me): Why We Justify Foolish Beliefs, Bad Decisions, and Hurtful Acts

Leon Festinger's cognitive dissonance theory was introduced in his book When Prophecy Fails, originally published in 1956 and co-authored by Festinger, Henry W. Riecken and Stanley Schachter. The authors engaged in a study of a cult-following created by Mrs. Marian Keech, a housewife who claimed to have communications with extraterrestrials. She predicted a global cataclysm in which the elect who heeded the warning would be rescued by alien spacecraft at a particular site. What Festinger's team demonstrated in the end was that the failure of prophecy often has consequences that are the opposite of what we might expect. The most ardent members of a cult can become even more convinced of the truth of their actions and beliefs!

Leon Festinger noted that:

A man with a conviction is a hard man to change. Tell him you disagree and he turns away. Show him facts or figures and he questions your sources. Appeal to logic and he fails to see your point. We have all experienced the futility of trying to change a strong conviction, especially if the convinced person has some investment in his belief. We are familiar with the variety of ingenious defenses with which people protect their convictions, managing to keep them unscathed through the most devastating attacks. But man's resourcefulness goes beyond simply protecting a belief. Suppose an individual believes something with his whole heart; suppose further that he has a commitment to this belief, that he has taken irrevocable actions because of it; finally, suppose that he is presented with evidence, unequivocal and undeniable evidence, that his belief is wrong: what will happen? The individual will frequently emerge, not only unshaken, but even more convinced of the truth of his beliefs than ever before. Indeed, he may even show a new fervor about convincing and converting other people to his view.

...... But whatever explanation {for failure} is made it is still by itself not sufficient. The dissonance is too important and though they may try to hide it, even from themselves, the believers still know that the prediction was false and all their preparations were in vain. The dissonance cannot be eliminated completely by denying or rationalizing the disconfirmation. But there is a way in which the remaining dissonance can be reduced. If more and more people can be persuaded that the system of belief is correct, then clearly it must, after all, be correct. Consider the extreme case: if everyone in the whole world believed something there would be no question at all as to the validity of this belief. It is for this reason that we observe the increase in proselytizing following disconfirmation. If the proselytizing proves successful, then by gathering more adherents and effectively surrounding himself with supporters, the believer reduces dissonance to the point where he can live with it.

http://cognews.com/1185551773

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102
Re: Cognitive Dissonance -- Why it's hard to admit to being wrong

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http://cognews.com/1185551773

I think there's a much simpler explanation and term for that condition; arrogant asshole.

EDIT: And one more, 'denial.'


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

John 00 Flemming can still spin some sick trance sets! Yay...


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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shaolin_Z
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Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

I just put Jody Wisternoff - Nostalgia (Original Mix) in my playlist after a while and that track kicks ass!


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

Hey Q5, I came across this thought you might like it:


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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