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RavingLunatic
crack addict
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Zimbabwe
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Yay for kabul!
I hope they are playing tiesto over there..
do you have a place I could see that online?
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Nov-15-2001 03:20
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RavingLunatic
crack addict
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Zimbabwe
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yeah, but I am too lazy to go searching through archives and stuff.
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Nov-15-2001 03:33
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lMIlk
Moderat0r
Registered: Aug 2001
Location: super size fries
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ya seeing that actually made me feel sorry for them and happy for them at the same time.
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Nov-15-2001 04:02
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cweb
Senior tranceaddict

Registered: Jun 2001
Location: hasle, switzerland
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| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
and now i wanna hear those again who yelled and cried to stop the bombings...who sympathized with the so so sooo poor taliban who gets the american bombs up their ass --> thats for the pacifists here
no, the war's not over yet, not at all, but what would have happned without the merican strikes? The northern alliance didnt stand a chance and today they rule some 70% of afghanistan |
Are you completely insane????? Congratulation USA you have dethroned the Taliban (which is a prinicpal good thing) BUT the North alliance is not that much better than the Taliban. They are not so religious like the Taliban (i.e. music, women) but they are a cruel group as well (remember the middle 90s?). I think they are better, but not that much that a war is ok to install them. They are "Mudschaheddin" as well (do you know the meaning?). I wonder if they are willing to give up their power to install a UN-protected Government.
Beside that...
What were the targets at the beginning of the war??? Right, the fight against terrorism! Do you see Osama hang from a tree? Where is Mullah Omar (dont know if he is a terrorist, he is ther head of the taliban which is bad enough)?? Is there any proof that al-Kiada is destroyed (beside the fact that there are several other militant groups who are willing to take the crown)? I'm wonder what the US (and YOU as well) will say when in 2 years some bridge explode and osama is on TV, giggling in the camera.
On the other side this war has CAUSED problems inside islamic countries (Pakistan for example, what if the militant group take over the power? bomb them as well???). And it caused problems in europe too. for example germany: many people there are against the war, at least 20% I would say. But NO political party is agaainst it. BESIDE the PDS (communists) and the NPD (Nazis). That is not a good sign.
The fact that the war has made afghanistan taliban-free (really?????) does not justify a war which the main target was fullfilled and have Caused more problems that it solved. Beside that there were "colleteral damage" as well. And how stupid can you be too paint a lunchbag like a bomb????? Or how cruel....
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Nov-15-2001 11:38
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TranceGiant
randomly disappoints

Registered: Jun 2001
Location: (Strudel)-City that never sleeps
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| quote: | Originally posted by cweb
Are you completely insane????? Congratulation USA you have dethroned the Taliban (which is a prinicpal good thing) BUT the North alliance is not that much better than the Taliban. They are not so religious like the Taliban (i.e. music, women) but they are a cruel group as well (remember the middle 90s?). I think they are better, but not that much that a war is ok to install them. They are "Mudschaheddin" as well (do you know the meaning?). I wonder if they are willing to give up their power to install a UN-protected Government.
Beside that...
What were the targets at the beginning of the war??? Right, the fight against terrorism! Do you see Osama hang from a tree? Where is Mullah Omar (dont know if he is a terrorist, he is ther head of the taliban which is bad enough)?? Is there any proof that al-Kiada is destroyed (beside the fact that there are several other militant groups who are willing to take the crown)? I'm wonder what the US (and YOU as well) will say when in 2 years some bridge explode and osama is on TV, giggling in the camera.
On the other side this war has CAUSED problems inside islamic countries (Pakistan for example, what if the militant group take over the power? bomb them as well???). And it caused problems in europe too. for example germany: many people there are against the war, at least 20% I would say. But NO political party is agaainst it. BESIDE the PDS (communists) and the NPD (Nazis). That is not a good sign.
The fact that the war has made afghanistan taliban-free (really?????) does not justify a war which the main target was fullfilled and have Caused more problems that it solved. Beside that there were "colleteral damage" as well. And how stupid can you be too paint a lunchbag like a bomb????? Or how cruel.... |
1. relax, im not completely insane.
2. maybe u should re-read my post, i pointed out that the war is not over AT ALL. I DO know what Mudjaheddin are (the guerilleros fighting sowjet invaders) and im also aware of the fact that the northern alliane cant be the solution either.
That's got nothing to do with the fact that the US-intervention is not ONLY bad, cruel SENSELESS as ppl wanna see it but can also achieve positive changes.
I donno if u heared Bush, but he himself didnt wanna the N.A. to go into Kabul in order to controll the city. The US wants to form a multiethnical new government, what I think would be the best solution as well.
3. The war as i said aint over yet, i guess its just the beginning..but u HAVE to admit that the situation for the afghan ppl as well as for the fight against terrorism has bcame much better DUE TO american strikes.
The Taliban who were a poweful politial movement, ruling a whole country support Bin Laden's Al- Quaida are now a little bunch of loosers hiding in caves. Id say that IS a sucess in the war against terror but not its end.
What i wanna say is that all those who scream "stop the war" never thought about alternatives! If u ask me...i prefer to kill my enemy instead of getting killed by him and since negotiating with him hasnt worked out it's time to make business.
Pitty about the German crisis but ..every1 has his right to have his own opinion and if the majority is against Schroeders idead then let it be so
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Nov-15-2001 11:54
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