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TranceElevation
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Graphic/Parametric Hybrid Eq

What is out there other than Waves Geq? Maybe it's me but I couldn't find anything else. Would be strange if it's the only option cause I thing a graphic/parametric hybrid is the most logical choice for precision eq on the master channel.


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Looney4Clooney
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Graphic eqs and precision are oxymorons.


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eqlibrium is all you need.
There is no use for graphic EQ in daws, only handy for live use.


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TranceElevation
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quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
Graphic eqs and precision are oxymorons.


George, you are wrong.
The degree of precision a graphic eq offers is the precise one for the level of precision you'd need on the master channel.


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Looney4Clooney
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graphic equalizers have a preset Q and preset frequency.


Otherwise it would just be a parametric. Ad 10 nodes in any EQ and you have your graphic EQ.

the things most eqs forget

Overtone feature and a note displacement feature.

Other than that, digital eqs are pretty much all the same using the same math.


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TranceElevation
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quote:
Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
graphic equalizers have a preset Q and preset frequency.


Otherwise it would just be a parametric. Ad 10 nodes in any EQ and you have your graphic EQ.

the things most eqs forget

Overtone feature and a note displacement feature.

Other than that, digital eqs are pretty much all the same using the same math.


Exactly George. I don't need surgical precision on the master channel.


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Looney4Clooney
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then don't use it surgically.

still no reason for a graphic eq. A parametric EQ can do everything and more. There is no reason to have one. they exist live because things don't change and its too expensive and not practical to have a 30 node parametric [physical eq.


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TranceElevation
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Something like the Waves Geq SOMEHOW makes more sense to me on the master channel. It's the way my receptors feel. A mental interpretation. For some reason I envision a graphic/parametric eq better there. Maybe its limits is what attracts me. It might work, who knows...


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Oh...and did I mention that it's easier to raise faders than having to create a band and drag it vertically and horizontally...

Think about it George, that's a good argument.


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Looney4Clooney
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i would disagree. Make a preset. You've spent more time asking for a plugin that you could of made in half


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You keep saying "precision", but what you really seem to mean is "convenient." Graphic EQs are not as precise as parametrics and they can't be because they have fixed frequencies and bandwidths, so their precision is inherently limited. As Raphie said, they're great for live applications (although, I still preferred using a parametric EQ on the foldback monitors when I was doing live sound for precise control/elimination of feedback).

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Oh...and did I mention that it's easier to raise faders than having to create a band and drag it vertically and horizontally...

Think about it George, that's a good argument.


Most parametric EQs have separate frequency, Q, and gain knobs, so you can cut/boost each frequency using just the gain knob without affecting the others.

The bigger issue here, though, is that you make it sound like using a parametric EQ is some difficult, time-consuming task that requires pinpoint precision. It's really not. But, if you just like the idea of using a graphic EQ on the master bus, don't let us stop you. People do all sorts of unorthodox things to their mixes and get good results.


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Maybe its limits is what attracts me. It might work, who knows...


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