Originally posted by woscar
You are the strangest atheist I've ever met.
I know, I'm often at odds both with theists and atheists... and I'm not even agnostic
Nov-25-2010 18:59
Lira
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Location: Brasília, Brazil
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
He is the agnostic atheist, believing in the possibility there is no God but holding onto that shred of doubt that there actually is.
Not really. I find it very unlikely that there's anything remotely similar to our concept of God (which doesn't make me an agnostic, I'm hardly "in doubt" or thinking that this is an answer we can't ever have) and even if there were, I don't think we should even care (reason why I'm quite comfortable saying I'm an atheist rather than an agnostic).
Now, the reason why I disagree with most atheists is because I loathe normativity more than I disbelieve in God - I couldn't care less if there are religious people in the world. The moment Thagard says you shouldn't base the meaning your life in religion, I'm almost tempted to say "Oh, yeah? Watch me!". But then again, in order to do it I'd have to give in and adapt to the normative rules of any religious system - which takes me back to my original position
Nov-25-2010 19:04
Halcyon+On+On
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Location: midcoast
So... you're agnostic, then?
Nov-25-2010 19:07
Lira
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Location: Brasília, Brazil
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
So... you're agnostic, then?
No, I'm atheist who doesn't care about theists.
Nov-25-2010 19:16
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
Well I don't believe in atheists because there's simply no evidence of their existing apart from people's wild and delusional claims. So you're agnostic.
Nov-25-2010 19:17
EddieZilker
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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Not really. I find it very unlikely that there's anything remotely similar to our concept of God (which doesn't make me an agnostic, I'm hardly "in doubt" or thinking that this is an answer we can't ever have) and even if there were, I don't think we should even care (reason why I'm quite comfortable saying I'm an atheist rather than an agnostic).
Now, the reason why I disagree with most atheists is because I loathe normativity more than I disbelieve in God - I couldn't care less if there are religious people in the world. The moment Thagard says you shouldn't base the meaning your life in religion, I'm almost tempted to say "Oh, yeah? Watch me!". But then again, in order to do it I'd have to give in and adapt to the normative rules of any religious system - which takes me back to my original position
So you actually dislike conformity <--- granted an over-simplification of the nuance inherent to your position.
Yet you conflate your thinking with this non-conformist attitude, thereby conforming to a strict adherence of your own making!
This existential paradox will soon implode and it WILL END VERY POORLY FOR YOU!!!
You have been warned.
Nov-25-2010 19:24
Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasília, Brazil
quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Well I don't believe in atheists because there's simply no evidence of their existing apart from people's wild and delusional claims. So you're agnostic.
I don't believe in agnostics because there just isn't any evidence that you can live without any belief, positive or negative.
So I'm a diagnostic.
...
I'll get my coat
Nov-25-2010 19:25
Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Brasília, Brazil
quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
This existential paradox will soon implode and it WILL END VERY POORLY FOR YOU!!!
Nov-25-2010 19:27
Halcyon+On+On
Liebchen
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: midcoast
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
I don't believe ... you can live without any belief, positive or negative.
Really? I have no problem believing tha-
Err.
Shiiiiiiiitttttttttttttt.
Nov-25-2010 19:31
Lira
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Nov-25-2010 19:34
Ian
Not dead yet.
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Location: UK
some pics. amsterdam, my favourite bday card and stuff.
Up above the sky
Amsterdammed
Tatoo Car. New for 2010 it said.
My auntie & uncles card ,they have a great sense of humour, love it.
November Sunset. love winter ones, they're always so orange & ace.
Nov-25-2010 19:42
Meat187
Diese scheiß Katze
Registered: Dec 2007
Location: The Night's Plutonian Shore
quote:
Originally posted by Lira
No, I'm atheist who doesn't care about theists.
For someone who doesn't care about theists you sure like to talk about them.