Originally posted by TOR
Not every event is like that, though. I still stand by my point that a DJ who does not produce can achieve the exact same effect on the dancefloor as a DJ who does.
I'd go one step further and say some DJ's who are very, very shit producers are still incredible DJ's.
Oct-22-2007 19:35
cmay119
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Minnesota, USA
quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I'd go one step further and say some DJ's who are very, very shit producers are still incredible DJ's.
Desyn Masiello comes to mind there. Haven't really heard a production/remix from him that was ever that good. Incredibly talented DJ however...
Originally posted by cmay119
Desyn Masiello comes to mind there. Haven't really heard a production/remix from him that was ever that good. Incredibly talented DJ however...
Burridge is another one - he's had a few "decent" tunes, but nothing really at all outstanding. On the decks though... whoo-boy.
Oct-22-2007 19:40
element-y
!Shakawkaw!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
Never said they werent. Just said i prefer producers who have killer sets over there mxing skills.
The average dj doesnt produce also. And yes, in most cases, the average dj is better than the average producer at mixing at a club.
I just prefer to spend on the producers who throw down good songs.
And yea, because i get a better reaction from seeing a producer tear shit up then watching a dj tear shit up, i vote the producer in the dj polls. I think becuase of the fact they drop their own tracks on the floor adds to them being on top because of the crowd reaction. That is why i count producers as djs. They have an advantage over the crowd if their tracks are good.
Oct-22-2007 19:41
Mr.Mystery
I Drive The Hearse
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vantaa
That's a lovely little story. However, you're still voting producers in a DJ poll and no amount of explaining is going to change that.
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
i still dont see why not.
You view the poll as a dj who has skills in transitions and effects and fades, where i see the dj as somoene who excites the crowd and makes me have fun listening to tracks i like to hear. If that dj happens to also have produced tracks that i like it adds to me enjoying myself on the dancefloor. Therefore, i view that over skills on the actual decks.
A dj isnt supposed to be just someone who is great at the tables. You vote based on who you like seeing the most at a club. So i voted!
Oct-22-2007 19:50
MichaelBoogerd!
Lost Treasures
Registered: May 2003
Location: Bratislava
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
See i woudnt be able to answer that one. I go to events to support the tracks i like from the producers. And even though when they dj them in fornt of a crowd it isnt the best mixing, i cheer on the tracks they produce. I see producers when they dj as "pop star". No not idolize bullcrap like followers of tiesto and shit (i think tiesto sucks but not relevant), but in support of having them continue to produce those tracks. Yea record sales show this and artists can be fine with just that, but seeing the guy/guys who made the track adds a feeling for me i dont get when seeing just a person messing behind the decks. So yea, an average night is going to a club to dance to a dj who doesnt produce and just plays tracks (be it master skills on the decks or just fades), but when i truly support someone its seeing the person behind the song. I know being a skilled dj requires a lot of work and skill ( i dj and love to do so), but when it comes down to paying 40 dollars for an amazing dj who doesnt produce but is skilled at mixing vs a producer who isnt the best at djiing but has great track productions along with other good songs in the set, id see the second.
For instance, take armin. When he plays other tracks that arnt his people just dance and cheer a little if they recognize the track, but when he drops one of his own, be it old or new, people go nuts to show support for the production. THat is what i love about seeing producers dj at clubs.
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
what a response
Oct-22-2007 19:55
UWM
Sweetastic
Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Here
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
i still dont see why not.
Because producer =/= DJ. Simple as, really.
Oct-22-2007 19:58
element-y
!Shakawkaw!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
A producer djs when he is in a club no? Therefore, how is he not a dj?
Oct-22-2007 20:00
smakmagik
His heart couldnt beat it
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Back from the Hills
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
A producer djs when he is in a club no? Therefore, how is he not a dj?
He is a DJ but he is not pre-judged based on his producing skills. You dont call a DJ who spins a wicked set a good producer regardless of his skills or lack of them as one.
Oct-22-2007 20:02
MeLLyMeL
has been Neod
Registered: Dec 2003
Location: In A Bathroom.
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
A dj isnt supposed to be just someone who is great at the tables. You vote based on who you like seeing the most at a club. So i voted!
wrong.. AGAIN!
You are voting on who you like seeing most at a club which happens to be nothing but producers who only get gigs because of a few songs they put out.
You are not liking the dj's for the right reasons. Anyone can be a dj now. That why the list is now 250 rather than 100.
