How am i flat out wrong? For the most part i am right. Dont look at the rare few, look at the many. In order to play your tracks live, you have to dj (mix them with other tracks using decks). Unless its a full on live show, you cant play a song start to end at a club or venue as a producer in the EDM genre. I mean if its all computer work and you dont use abelton and what not, you are limited to either learning to dj or never sharing your music at a gig.

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Originally posted by element-y How am i flat out wrong? For the most part i am right. Dont look at the rare few, look at the many. In order to play your tracks live, you have to dj (mix them with other tracks using decks). Unless its a full on live show, you cant play a song start to end at a club or venue as a producer in the EDM genre. I mean if its all computer work and you dont use abelton and what not, you are limited to either learning to dj or never sharing your music at a gig.

LOL take the other guy's advice and shut the fuck up dude, you're making this too easy for us.

Now you're dissing Ableton too? Have you ever even opened the program?

And what the fuck else are you on about? You're honestly saying that the only way to promote your productions is to get booked? Where the fuck have you been these passed few years? We're in the era of fucking bedroom producers, with internet availability worldwide, Joe Chong Ping in fucking Korea can send his new track to Hernan Cattaneo in South America and if it's good enough Hernan will play that shit, and there's no better promo than a HUGE DJ that tours constantly playing your tracks out to thousands of clubbers.

Producers become DJs because there is OFTEN a connection between the two, and if they want to do one, they usually want to do the other, and love both. But just because a GREAT producer loves DJing as well, DOESNT MAKE HIM GOOD AT IT!!!!!!!!!!

Also, there's the other half of it, producers tired of being cooped up in their studios and want a bit of the superstar action the DJs get, and they already have an "in" with their productions, so why not go for it? The problem is a lot of them jump at the chance before being at all good at DJing, which sucks because we get landed with crap shows and idiots like you that vote for the producers.

Damn, Swamper, please put a manditory IQ test on the page before you get to enter your picks for next year's poll, this guy is like a deer in headlights.

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Originally posted by element-y How am i flat out wrong? For the most part i am right. Dont look at the rare few, look at the many. In order to play your tracks live, you have to dj (mix them with other tracks using decks). Unless its a full on live show, you cant play a song start to end at a club or venue as a producer in the EDM genre. I mean if its all computer work and you dont use abelton and what not, you are limited to either learning to dj or never sharing your music at a gig.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to get accross, but are you saying you have to be a producer in order to become a DJ?

I didnt trash ableton, read over.

Guys read this shit. I am saying if someone themselves wants to play their productions that are EDM and dont know how to do a live set or use abelton, then they have to learn to spin. No club will take a producer and let them play a track start to end. I claery am not saying producers dont send tracks to others... so before you keep talking shit, read the damn text.

If i produce edm and want to play it too people myself, with no skills in playing any part of the track live, i must learn to dj (mix tracks of mine and maybe others) to get playtime. EDM isnt something like rock where you can play one track till the end then start another. People expect a mix at a club (transitions) instead of a one song after another thing. SO BASICALLY, you have to use decks to play your tracks.

Honestly guys, i cant make it any simpler to understand haha. And yea, i will keep responding because you dont understand.

No one wants someone throwing a party where they simply have a break between songs. You must mix (IE be a dj)


Retard scenario for you morons:

Gee, i just produced 20 bad ass tracks on my computer and would love to play these for people myself and enjoy taking in the reaction. But shit, no one would take me at a club if i dont know how to mix the songs into a set. I must learn to dj!

So that's why you vote for producers in a dj-poll?

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Originally posted by element-y I didnt trash ableton, read over. Guys read this shit. I am saying if someone themselves wants to play their productions that are EDM and dont know how to do a live set or use abelton, then they have to learn to spin. No club will take a producer and let them play a track start to end. I claery am not saying producers dont send tracks to others... so before you keep talking shit, read the damn text. If i produce edm and want to play it too people myself, with no skills in playing any part of the track live, i must learn to dj (mix tracks of mine and maybe others) to get playtime. EDM isnt something like rock where you can play one track till the end then start another. People expect a mix at a club (transitions) instead of a one song after another thing. SO BASICALLY, you have to use decks to play your tracks. Honestly guys, i cant make it any simpler to understand haha. And yea, i will keep responding because you dont understand. No one wants someone throwing a party where they simply have a break between songs. You must mix (IE be a dj) Retard scenario for you morons: Gee, i just produced 20 bad ass tracks on my computer and would love to play these for people myself and enjoy taking in the reaction. But shit, no one would take me at a club if i dont know how to mix the songs into a set. I must learn to dj!

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ok i understand what ur saying here but this is a DJ poll. DJing involves mixing, track selection, programing, and pleasing the crowd. It dose not involve sitting at home and making ur own productions. It involves being in the clubs spinning sets. What your saying is you vote for whoever makes the best tracks at home and not who spins the best sets in the club. This poll is about the DJ's not the producers, so your vote should be based on who spins the best sets and not who makes the best tracks.

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Originally posted by element-y I didnt trash ableton, read over. Guys read this shit. I am saying if someone themselves wants to play their productions that are EDM and dont know how to do a live set or use abelton, then they have to learn to spin. No club will take a producer and let them play a track start to end. I claery am not saying producers dont send tracks to others... so before you keep talking shit, read the damn text. If i produce edm and want to play it too people myself, with no skills in playing any part of the track live, i must learn to dj (mix tracks of mine and maybe others) to get playtime. EDM isnt something like rock where you can play one track till the end then start another. People expect a mix at a club (transitions) instead of a one song after another thing. SO BASICALLY, you have to use decks to play your tracks. Honestly guys, i cant make it any simpler to understand haha. And yea, i will keep responding because you dont understand. No one wants someone throwing a party where they simply have a break between songs. You must mix (IE be a dj) Retard scenario for you morons: Gee, i just produced 20 bad ass tracks on my computer and would love to play these for people myself and enjoy taking in the reaction. But shit, no one would take me at a club if i dont know how to mix the songs into a set. I must learn to dj!

We have all understood what you are saying but you are missing the point that we are ALL saying back to you. This is a DJ poll. Therefore, you should vote for who you think is the best DJ. Simple as that. Doesn't matter how good they are at producing. Thats not what this poll is about. Its about how good they are at DJ'ing.

Let me give you an analogy to help drill the message home.

You are in a restaurant havving a meal. The chef in the kitchen is also waiting tables. He is a brilliant chef, his food is unbelievable, the best you've tasted. But his skills as a waiter are terrible. He is ill mannered, didn't offer you any drinks and ignored you when you asked for sauces.

The next day you are asked by a friend who do you think is the best waiter or waitress you have ever come across.

Would you name the chef because his food was the best even though he was a crap waiter? Of course you wouldn't.

Just like you wouldn't name a shit DJ as being the best DJ there is just beacuse his productions are good....oh wait a minute...you would

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Originally posted by YO-I wher is moshic in the list??

He didn't get enough votes, therefore he didn't get into the top 250. Let me know if you need any more of life's simple processes explaining to you.

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Originally posted by element-y Retard scenario for you morons: Gee, i just produced 20 bad ass tracks on my computer and would love to play these for people myself and enjoy taking in the reaction. But shit, no one would take me at a club if i dont know how to mix the songs into a set. I must learn to dj!

Then they'd be DJ's, not just producers.

In all seriousness though, way to try too hard.