This poll is garbage, and its only for shits and giggles.....
Sean Tyas a better DJ than Carl Cox or Howells.....Theres too many n00bs on here that think producing is the same as DJ'ing...
Sander van Doorn #5? he's good but lol he began to DJ like 4-5 years ago, before he was only a producer, he even said he needs to improve and is not totally comfortable DJing and beat Sasha or Digweed???
DJ skills consists of mixing, setting the mood, buliding a set, etc... And people like Above & Beyond and Sean Tyas that in every set he plays all his productions and remixes so he can promote himself, not building a set from start to finish, is the 11th best DJ in the world?
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Oct-21-2007 02:09
element-y
!Shakawkaw!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
I vote for producers. I am not a fan of going to see a dj as much as i am supporting someone who produced the tracks themselves. Yea, DJing is a skill away from production, but id rather see the mind behind the track and not the one playing it with other tracks. Therefore, im sure many did the same and voted for the top 10 you see here. Some of the best tracks ive heard this year were from A&B, yet they dont dj as well. I still voted for them, becuase without their tracks, the djs that dont produce have nothing.
Oct-21-2007 02:59
Alex
Lennonism
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Montreal
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
I vote for producers. I am not a fan of going to see a dj as much as i am supporting someone who produced the tracks themselves. Yea, DJing is a skill away from production, but id rather see the mind behind the track and not the one playing it with other tracks. Therefore, im sure many did the same and voted for the top 10 you see here. Some of the best tracks ive heard this year were from A&B, yet they dont dj as well. I still voted for them, becuase without their tracks, the djs that dont produce have nothing.
It's a DJ poll.
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Oct-21-2007 03:04
Gillis maximus
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Sep 2005
Location: G-Vegas
30. Hernan Cattaneo
41. Lee Burridge
whatever happened to MoShic..?
Oct-21-2007 03:29
element-y
!Shakawkaw!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
... there is no producer poll. And producers call themselves dj's. You cant just produce and play tracks from beginning to end at a club. So in order to get gigs you have to learn to dj.
So yea, in polls, a dj poll is the same as a producer poll.
Oct-21-2007 03:41
RJT
ReTAired
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
So yea, in polls, a dj poll is the same as a producer poll.
No, it isn't. No matter how many idiots like you there are out there who think otherwise (and vote accordingly), a DJ poll is by definition supposed to be a poll about DJ's.
Oct-21-2007 03:49
Alex
Lennonism
Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Montreal
quote:
Originally posted by RJT
No, it isn't. No matter how many idiots like you there are out there who think otherwise (and vote accordingly), a DJ poll is by definition supposed to be a poll about DJ's.
Thank you.
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Originally posted by jennypie
He just throws money at her pussy. It keeps them both happy enough that they don't need sex.
Oct-21-2007 03:54
element-y
!Shakawkaw!
Registered: Feb 2006
Location: San Francisco and Boulder
How do producers get recognition in order to play their music...idiot (sorry, back at ya buddy)? No producer can play tracks on a cd player at a club. THey have to spin - learn to spin. Therefore, every producer gets dubbed a dj. DJ meaning plays music at a club. Dont give me the whole dj is disc jockey crap. When you say who is playing at a club you say dj .... even if they are producers. Those producers arnt considered master djs , but known for their productions. So yea, in overall, to play your tracks as an EDM producer, you MUST be a DJ. Therefore...everyone is a dj in this case. Now, with that said, this is a dj poll, so producers count just as much as those who dont but master the art of djing.
Oct-21-2007 06:14
HaeD
Tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2003
Location: Montreal
i didnt vote cause i didnt lissen to a single set this year from big name dj, so how could i know which dj is the best? If I would have to vote i would lean toward my favorite producer because of my ignorance toward dj.
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Body in Los Angeles, but San Francisco is my real home!
quote:
Originally posted by CleverName
May I be the first (I think) to point at that, once again, BT was voted into a top dj list and he is not a dj.
Ummm, I think you might be able to argue that a few years ago when BT was one of the only ones using Ableton, but so many DJs use Ableton and a somewhat similar set to what BT uses (w/ a keyboard, for example) argusing that he is not a DJ is just ludicrous. The definiate of what a DJ plays off of is just changing. If you want to make this argument for BT, then there are a number of other DJs who would need to be ripped out of that list too.
Oct-21-2007 08:59
DaveT
Mr. Handiface
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Body in Los Angeles, but San Francisco is my real home!
quote:
Originally posted by element-y
How do producers get recognition in order to play their music...idiot (sorry, back at ya buddy)? No producer can play tracks on a cd player at a club. THey have to spin - learn to spin. Therefore, every producer gets dubbed a dj. DJ meaning plays music at a club. Dont give me the whole dj is disc jockey crap. When you say who is playing at a club you say dj .... even if they are producers. Those producers arnt considered master djs , but known for their productions. So yea, in overall, to play your tracks as an EDM producer, you MUST be a DJ. Therefore...everyone is a dj in this case. Now, with that said, this is a dj poll, so producers count just as much as those who dont but master the art of djing.
You might as well just stop because your argument will never win.
BTW, your argument is flat out wrong. Just stop. Take the next exit. Do not continue. ROAD CLOSED.
BTW BTW, there have been plenty of producers over time who call themsevels only producers. And if they have some success, they often start DJing because they must to be able to focus on their producing and get more exposure (to bring in more money to fund their productions). That just brings me back to how you are flat out wrong -- every producer does not get dubbed as a DJ.
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Oct-21-2007 09:10
DaveT
Mr. Handiface
Registered: Jul 2002
Location: Body in Los Angeles, but San Francisco is my real home!
quote:
Originally posted by 84th Ave.
This poll is garbage, and its only for shits and giggles.....
Sean Tyas a better DJ than Carl Cox or Howells.....Theres too many n00bs on here that think producing is the same as DJ'ing...
Sander van Doorn #5? he's good but lol he began to DJ like 4-5 years ago, before he was only a producer, he even said he needs to improve and is not totally comfortable DJing and beat Sasha or Digweed???
DJ skills consists of mixing, setting the mood, buliding a set, etc... And people like Above & Beyond and Sean Tyas that in every set he plays all his productions and remixes so he can promote himself, not building a set from start to finish, is the 11th best DJ in the world?
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1. You need to put a question mark a the end of your "Sean Tyas a better DJ than Carl Cox or Howells" line because I wrong a huge argument over how you are nuts and how you just proved opinions can indeed be wrong, but I re-read what you said and realized you were like WTF are people thinking Tyas is bettter than them two as a DJ. lol.
Carl played here just Thursday night and blew me away, playing a set of the likes I've never heard him play in person before. Wasn't full of the usual techno I usually heard from him. Sooooooo much tech-trance. And a little electro, though way more trance than anything else. And he started off his set this way and never stopped. He played some of the amazing techno you expect from him, but he brought out this whole other side. He had everyone going nuts from the very first track of his set. Heard that day he was listening to XM radio while he was being driven around and they were playing trance and he was really getting into it (which the host found a bit funny lol)...wonder if he decided to play like he did after listening to the radio, hehe.
Anyhow, I think Sean is OK as a DJ but that guy still has a lot to learn when it come to having a structured set. I was so hyped to see him last time he played here because of how everyone said he was great when he played here before (which I could not attend) and while he played a lot of good tracks, the structure in the set was really lacking. Lots of people get hyped up in the club setting and think a set is better than it actually is.
2. If SvD doesn't think he isn't that good, then that's awesome. But he's still one of the best acts out there. Plain and simple. about 90% of the people who come across him live in person are simply blown away. The energy he brings and the vibe he creates some of the most intense i've ever seen. It's surreal. I have NEVER seen another DJ clear out every other room (including the hip-hop room) in a club and draw them into the mainroom he was playing that. He did just that when he played here last year (which was his first ever gig in North America0 A lot of old schoolers (usually people who throw the parties) say he creates an energy they haven't seen around since the early 90s. Think that's saying something.
Ferry Corsten didn't start DJing until after he started producing and he was pretty darn when he first started but it only took him a few years to become world renound. Why can't someone else do the same thing.