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musicsnob_NOT
because it is so
Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Oct-03-2008 21:37
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kaniz
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Registered: Sep 2005
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I gave Pivot's mix awhile ago, and after doing it - his posts make more sense, and in quite a few ways I agree with it.
I love minimal, the drones, bleeps, blonks - hell, got Alva Noto, Pan Sonic and a bunch of Sahko stuff on my MP3 player and think Sleeparchvie is king shit and have a soft spot for Plastikman and early T. Raum releases.
That said, quite a bit of the current 'popular' minimal that is getting played out is not that interesting. So many sets I've downloaded the past while feels like I could replace the DJ name with any other DJ name and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
The same tracks (which sound the same anyways) from the same labels pushing the same artists.
In the bigger picture of things, I'm still new to the techno scene, but what first caught my attention with Techno/Minimal was the newness of the sounds - some of the stuff I was hearing sounded like alien-future music. The sounds were interesting, the arrangements were interesting - stuff would blow me away thinking "how the hell is this even music?" (yet still loving it anyways)
Not too many DJs can pull off a purely minimal set and still make it interesting - especially when 90% of them seem to be pulling from the exact same record-bag (or beat-port best sellers list).
It's not about hard techno / minimal techno / house / whatever - it's simply about GOOD music and presenting it in an interesting way, and pushing out new/interesting music sounds and ideas, not simply rehashing the trends of the moment.
More producers seem to be interested in getting charted by a M_NUS DJ than producing something interesting, resulting in allot of stale music rehashing the same sounds, the same effects, the same style of builds and transitions and the same tricks.
I love minimal techno, and makes me a bit sad that so much 'bad' minimal is popular right now.
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Oct-03-2008 21:49
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kaniz
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Registered: Sep 2005
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Oh, however, I should prefix it : Just because I like it, doesn't mean I think it's "club" music or has any place in a club setting where dancing is the focus. There is a time and a place for music like that, and it's not when I want to be dancing.
Also, there is some stuff in that camp of producers which is very head up the ass pretentious : I dont like /everything/ that they produce, and they have quite a few misses as they do have tracks that are interesting, same with Pansonic -- few of their tracks really blow me away, other stuff is a bit too grating to listen to.
If I'm going for dance-music of that sort of style, Sleeparchive is usually pretty bang on for what I like.
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Oct-04-2008 02:26
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kaniz
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Registered: Sep 2005
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Two tracks from one of the albums that sparked my love of minimal. These tracks are like curling up into a comforting 'state' .. but, as much as I love them - if I heard it dropped in a club at 3am I'd think "wtf?" and be bored... but at the same time, two of my fave tracks - especially Bittersus - but not club music at all IMO.
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Oct-04-2008 03:19
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