Become a part of the TranceAddict community!Frequently Asked Questions - Please read this if you haven'tSearch the forums
TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Chill Out Room > Corona Virus Fears in your area
Pages (56): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 [13] 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 »   Last Thread   Next Thread
Author
Thread    Post A Reply
Silky Johnson
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Nov 2003
Location:

I'm sure a link was already shared breaking it down in specifics. If it wasn't here it was in one of my group chats. I will take a look.

Old Post Mar-16-2020 13:18 
Click Here to See the Profile for Silky Johnson Click here to Send Silky Johnson a Private Message Add Silky Johnson to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Zoso
Smoke Weed Every Day



Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Dirty South, United States

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You've not exactly shown your workings though. I'd love to see the actual modelling that has gone into these varying approaches.


The Lancet is at least attempting to build some models:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...0144-4/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30144-4/fulltext

Old Post Mar-16-2020 13:18  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Zoso Click here to Send Zoso a Private Message Add Zoso to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict



Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I think you should be explaining to me how we can. No public gatherings of people for a year. Schools closed and children at home for a year. The elderly isolated for a year. Travel banned for a year. Tell me how that is possible.


I don't know what you mean. Of course it's possible. Under the Civil Contingencies Act of 2004 the government can proclaim a state of emergency and force all of that to happen.

Is that a good idea? Probably not. But it is certainly possible.

I do think we should shut down everything (gyms/bars/restaurants/schools) for the next month or two, however, at least until we have more ventilators and testing facilities. Currently the NHS only has capacity to treat about 5,000 seriously-ill people at once.

Old Post Mar-16-2020 13:47 
Click Here to See the Profile for Lews Click here to Send Lews a Private Message Add Lews to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Zoso
Smoke Weed Every Day



Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Dirty South, United States

Arnie is sheltering place!

https://twitter.com/Schwarzenegger/...383795205169152

Old Post Mar-16-2020 13:48  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Zoso Click here to Send Zoso a Private Message Add Zoso to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Leeds

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
I don't know what you mean. Of course it's possible. Under the Civil Contingencies Act of 2004 the government can proclaim a state of emergency and force all of that to happen.

Is that a good idea? Probably not. But it is certainly possible.


And every airline collapses, every bar, restaurant, hotel, nightclub, sports club and gym goes out of business. The economy completely tanks, millions are unemployed, millions more have to adapt to changing child-care needs.

You asked me “why not”. That’s obviously why. It would be completely disastrous. Social distancing measures need to be phased and need to be timed right to take the worst of the sting out without fucking up the whole country in question.


___________________
Mixes:
> Beating The Lockdown Blues [Peak Time]
> A Different World [Downtempo Beats]
> A Secondhand Sunrise [Lush Breakbeat House]
> Lost In You [Trance Classics]
> I Dreamed Of Summer [Deep & Melodic House]

Old Post Mar-16-2020 14:13  England
Click Here to See the Profile for SYSTEM-J Click here to Send SYSTEM-J a Private Message Visit SYSTEM-J's homepage! Add SYSTEM-J to your buddy list SYSTEM-J is online now Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Vector A
Your petrochemical arms



Registered: Apr 2011
Location: U.S.

Doctors and scientists are throwing everything at this virus to try and beat it and some of these drugs seem to be working pretty well. Development of more accurate and faster tests is also moving along.

If we do the extensive social distancing and take the big economic hit right now, stemming the tide of new cases into hospitals, we may not need to worry as much about an extended "second-wave" outbreak once we get testing and treatment locked down and we can keep people from progressing from flu-like symptoms to respiratory failure.

The one advantage that the enormous number of cases gives us will be a huge, quickly-generated mass of data on what works and what doesn't.

Old Post Mar-16-2020 14:36  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Vector A Click here to Send Vector A a Private Message Add Vector A to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Vector A
Your petrochemical arms



Registered: Apr 2011
Location: U.S.

quote:
Originally posted by Zoso
Maybe some positive news?

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the...a-cure-c-746508

Yep, a number of anti-HIV drugs are being looked at. I've read multiple stories of patients recovering within days after starting on Kaletra. These are just anecdotes for now but multiple trials are underway.

Old Post Mar-16-2020 15:03  United States
Click Here to See the Profile for Vector A Click here to Send Vector A a Private Message Add Vector A to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
OrangestO
–30–



Registered: Feb 2010
Location: London

Wonder what the world's carbon emissions will look like in the next few months.

Old Post Mar-16-2020 15:43 
Click Here to See the Profile for OrangestO Click here to Send OrangestO a Private Message Add OrangestO to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Lews
Platipus And Prog Addict



Registered: Feb 2007
Location: Hugging Whales And Saving Trees

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
And every airline collapses, every bar, restaurant, hotel, nightclub, sports club and gym goes out of business. The economy completely tanks, millions are unemployed, millions more have to adapt to changing child-care needs.


Well, not necessarily. Yes, millions unemployed, but not necessarily all businesses going out of business. There are a lot of tools the government could use to prevent bankruptcies, as well as to help all those millions of unemployed get by. The economy would definitely contract, but then would rebound when things went back to normal.

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
You asked me “why not”. That’s obviously why. It would be completely disastrous. Social distancing measures need to be phased and need to be timed right to take the worst of the sting out without fucking up the whole country in question.


Again, I'm not suggesting we do it, I'm just saying that it is possible. Not trying to be pedantic, either, just saying that extreme measures could be taken. It's not impossible.

At the end of the day, it's a political choice. What is worse, for the government: shutting down much of the country for 1-3+ months, or having a per capita death rate much higher than the rest of Western Europe?

Old Post Mar-16-2020 15:54 
Click Here to See the Profile for Lews Click here to Send Lews a Private Message Add Lews to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Sykonee
Supreme EMCritic



Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Vancouver, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by OrangestO
Wonder what the world's carbon emissions will look like in the next few months.

They're already seeing a decrease in air pollution over northern Italy.

Edit:
Relevant link:
https://www.space.com/italy-coronav...ite-images.html


___________________
Everyone has an opinion. Mine just happens to be a little more informed than most.
Electronic Music Critic: Near-Daily Ruminations Of Music I Own, In Alphabetical Order!

(~)

Last edited by Sykonee on Mar-16-2020 at 16:53

Old Post Mar-16-2020 16:22  Canada
Click Here to See the Profile for Sykonee Click here to Send Sykonee a Private Message Visit Sykonee's homepage! Add Sykonee to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Woony
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Berlin

Re: "What is possible" - I though this thread was interesting - https://twitter.com/frnsys/status/1238537548386967553

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
At the end of the day, it's a political choice. What is worse, for the government: shutting down much of the country for 1-3+ months, or having a per capita death rate much higher than the rest of Western Europe?


Not only is the second option dangerous and extremly unsolidaric to countries which have been more or less forced into an early lockdown, I also doubt it is going to make anyone better off in the long run. The workings of the economy aren't laws of nature, they're socially and politically mediated and can be suspended and transformed. The more goverments agree on a state-of-exception and employ similiar tools, the easier it is going to be to get out of this thing in the long run.


___________________
June 2018 mix

Old Post Mar-16-2020 16:52 
Click Here to See the Profile for Woony Click here to Send Woony a Private Message Add Woony to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message
Woony
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Sep 2009
Location: Berlin

Apparently the state of Ohio alone now already has more estimated cases than all of China during their main outbreak (100k vs. 80k).


___________________
June 2018 mix

Old Post Mar-16-2020 17:35 
Click Here to See the Profile for Woony Click here to Send Woony a Private Message Add Woony to your buddy list Report this Post Reply w/Quote Edit/Delete Message

TranceAddict Forums > Main Forums > Chill Out Room > Corona Virus Fears in your area
Post New Thread    Post A Reply

Pages (56): « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 [13] 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 »  
Last Thread   Next Thread
Show Printable Version | Subscribe to this Thread

Forum Jump:

All times are GMT. The time now is 12:56.

Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
[IMG] code is ON
 
Search this Thread:

 
Contact Us - return to tranceaddict

Powered by: Trance Music & vBulletin Forums
Copyright ©2000-2020

Privacy Statement / DMCA