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Originally posted by PivotTechno What, six straight hours of the same, loping, bloopy minimal sounds don't hold your attention?

Compared to what, that incredible diverse and interesting hard techno you listen to?

You obviously haven't listened to any of my mixes, which tend to showcase a diverse range of genres that weren't all produced in the last 48 hours.

Sorry if I offended your mnml snsblts...

^^ I think minimal is just as boring and loopy as the harder stuff. It's all the same structurally, no?

and no, I have not listened to any of your mixes.

I have nothing against minimal techno - hell, Rob Hood is minimal and he rocks the casbah. I guess we're all in agreement, just saying it in different ways.

It's how a set's put together that makes the individual tracks interesting - tell me a good story and you'll have my absolute and undivided attention.

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Originally posted by The Highroller Here's a set buy Panorama Bar resident Nick Hoppner. I saw him play from noon-4pm there. Words cannot describe the pandemonium this guy caused with his set. This set is a very good depiction of how he played that afternoon. Deeper in the beginning, and serious business at the end. Enjoy. http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/t...ickHoeppner.mp3

Hoppner's set was amazing. Only vinyl and always with a cigarette in his mouth. He took the party for great to

I remember we were a bit upset that there wasn't anyone we really knew (I had seen Jesse Rose at Circa) or any big names there and the music ended up being awsome.

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I gave Pivot's mix awhile ago, and after doing it - his posts make more sense, and in quite a few ways I agree with it.

I love minimal, the drones, bleeps, blonks - hell, got Alva Noto, Pan Sonic and a bunch of Sahko stuff on my MP3 player and think Sleeparchvie is king shit and have a soft spot for Plastikman and early T. Raum releases.

That said, quite a bit of the current 'popular' minimal that is getting played out is not that interesting. So many sets I've downloaded the past while feels like I could replace the DJ name with any other DJ name and you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.

The same tracks (which sound the same anyways) from the same labels pushing the same artists.

In the bigger picture of things, I'm still new to the techno scene, but what first caught my attention with Techno/Minimal was the newness of the sounds - some of the stuff I was hearing sounded like alien-future music. The sounds were interesting, the arrangements were interesting - stuff would blow me away thinking "how the hell is this even music?" (yet still loving it anyways)

Not too many DJs can pull off a purely minimal set and still make it interesting - especially when 90% of them seem to be pulling from the exact same record-bag (or beat-port best sellers list).

It's not about hard techno / minimal techno / house / whatever - it's simply about GOOD music and presenting it in an interesting way, and pushing out new/interesting music sounds and ideas, not simply rehashing the trends of the moment.

More producers seem to be interested in getting charted by a M_NUS DJ than producing something interesting, resulting in allot of stale music rehashing the same sounds, the same effects, the same style of builds and transitions and the same tricks.

I love minimal techno, and makes me a bit sad that so much 'bad' minimal is popular right now.

Truncated shenanigans from this afternoon...

WestsideWax - Short Stack Sampler

25:30 mins - 320 Kbps - 58 MB

>>Download Here<<

Tracklist:

Ultrakurt - Minimetres (Pantytec no no mix) - Telegraph
Peace Division - Hear I Am - NRK
Mimas - Open Up Your Mind - Music Man
Eduardo de la Calle - h.f. version - Salo
Abstract Soul - It's True - Hybrid
Gemini - Dreamer - Cyclo
Steve O'Sullivan vs. Exos - Ljoshina - Mosaic
Sneak Thief - Unkind (feat. cavity) - Gingerbread House
Jeroen - Reform - Molecular

More at: The Family Umbrella

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Originally posted by The Highroller Here's a set buy Panorama Bar resident Nick Hoppner. I saw him play from noon-4pm there. Words cannot describe the pandemonium this guy caused with his set. This set is a very good depiction of how he played that afternoon. Deeper in the beginning, and serious business at the end. Enjoy. http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/t...ickHoeppner.mp3

Nice. From the first quick listen it's got that really funky but deep minimal that I am liking right now.

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Originally posted by kaniz I love minimal, the drones, bleeps, blonks - hell, got Alva Noto,

OK, I've lost all respect for you with that post. :P

This is one of the first posts of yours I totally disagree with.

I saw Alva Noto open for Ricardo and Richie in Berlin at Berghain. It was the stereotypical German techno that was completly awful and it hurt my ears to have to listen to him for 45 minutes. He was totally into it and the crowd just stood around waiting. Honestly it was just really bad. I mean really, really bad.






But what the hell do I know...when he finished the crowd who I thought felt the same way I did (no one appeared to be liking it at all) went nuts and cheered and clapped.


To each their own I guess.

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Oh, however, I should prefix it : Just because I like it, doesn't mean I think it's "club" music or has any place in a club setting where dancing is the focus. There is a time and a place for music like that, and it's not when I want to be dancing.

Also, there is some stuff in that camp of producers which is very head up the ass pretentious : I dont like /everything/ that they produce, and they have quite a few misses as they do have tracks that are interesting, same with Pansonic -- few of their tracks really blow me away, other stuff is a bit too grating to listen to.

If I'm going for dance-music of that sort of style, Sleeparchive is usually pretty bang on for what I like.

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Two tracks from one of the albums that sparked my love of minimal. These tracks are like curling up into a comforting 'state' .. but, as much as I love them - if I heard it dropped in a club at 3am I'd think "wtf?" and be bored... but at the same time, two of my fave tracks - especially Bittersus - but not club music at all IMO.