Originally posted by Lira
By the way, Nef, I believe you'd like to see this: A buff guy turning into a hot girl in 48 pictures...
Took him 2 years to become her according to this website. Can't imagine how dramatic it must've been for those around him-then-her to follow the changes... you can hardly believe it's somehow the same continuous body.
now what would be really awesome if he went back to being a muscular guy. That would be pretty sick.
Dec-04-2011 17:53
prolikewhoa
veteran attention whore
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Berlin
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Yeah I am bisexual too, and actually it's something that puts tension into my relationship with the radical queer community, that I am attracted to and available to straight people, straight men no less. That makes me a 'bad radical' in their eyes. In bed with the enemy and all that
exaaaaactly. no lesbians ever want to date me. they think i'll just go back to cock or something. only women i've ever been with are fellow bisexuals. seems they are the only ones who really get it. the straight guys i date also tend to not take my attraction to women as seriously as my attraction to men. for example, my ex told me it wouldn't bother him at all for me to hook up with a girl while we were together, but if i were to hook up with another man, it would be unacceptable. i'm like, really dude? it's cheating either way you slice it...
Dec-04-2011 17:59
Vector A
Your petrochemical arms
Registered: Apr 2011
Location: U.S.
I think that when a lot of straight guys hear "bisexual" from a girl, they interpret it as "barsexual."
Dec-04-2011 18:01
prolikewhoa
veteran attention whore
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Berlin
yeah, those girls piss me the fuck off.
Dec-04-2011 18:02
pmoisse
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Amsterdam, NL (formerly Montreal QC)
It's Zeus' birthday today!!
I made him an extra big dinner to celebrate - it's a nice, big, cheap steakie with a nice big bone in the middle, plus some chicken thighs which are his favourite dinner moreso than the steakies I think
It's been a great year of progress and understanding between him and I, especially compared to the difficulties of the latter part of his first year
Dec-04-2011 18:06
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Vector A
I think that when a lot of straight guys hear "bisexual" from a girl, they interpret it as "barsexual."
i think it's just latent (or outright) misogyny.
Dec-04-2011 18:08
Vector A
Your petrochemical arms
Registered: Apr 2011
Location: U.S.
Yeah, it is definitely a misogynist move, to jump immediately to the "least serious" and most male-focused interpretation when a woman tells you she likes women.
Dec-04-2011 18:11
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by pmoisse
It's Zeus' birthday today!!
I made him an extra big dinner to celebrate - it's a nice, big, cheap steakie with a nice big bone in the middle, plus some chicken thighs which are his favourite dinner moreso than the steakies I think
It's been a great year of progress and understanding between him and I, especially compared to the difficulties of the latter part of his first year
did you guys break up?
Dec-04-2011 18:21
Chimney
Low pH
Registered: Oct 2008
Location: Western Block
You consider males to be an enemy?
Dec-04-2011 18:55
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by Chimney
You consider males to be an enemy?
no, not in general, but many of my friends and acquaintances do.
Dec-04-2011 19:03
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
Do you go up to black people in the US and say 'OMG you're so black, so I think you'll find this picture of black people so interesting!'
Black people tend to be born black, there generally isn't an intensive course of surgery, hormonal therapy and make-over as part of the process. Lira clearly thinks you're interested in the process, a difficult transition you've been through yourself, and not the straightforward transgender identity of the individual. It's not like he's showing you one picture of a transgender person and expecting you to find their gender identity interesting by default.
And many of your friends and acquaintances are bigots.
Dec-04-2011 19:38
nefardec
Tranceaddict in tranning
Registered: Oct 2004
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Black people tend to be born black, there generally isn't an intensive course of surgery, hormonal therapy and make-over as part of the process. Lira clearly thinks you're interested in the process, a difficult transition you've been through yourself, and not the straightforward transgender identity of the individual. It's not like he's showing you one picture of a transgender person and expecting you to find their gender identity interesting by default.
And many of your friends and acquaintances are bigots.
My point was that those photos show nearly nothing about the process of transition, which is largely psychosocial. I should know.
That link is clearly only concerned with showing two extremes of a sensationalist story. It's nothing more than a tabloid story.
I agree about the bigotry, but many of these people are just constantly on the defensive, and for good reason.