|Originally posted by SYSTEM-J |
The Welsh in particularly are infuriatingly nationalist. They see themselves as a nation still colonised by the English, and fight tooth and nail to preserve their pitiful cultural lineage. For example, there are large parts of Wales where all the signage in any shop or public outlet has to be in English and Welsh, even though only around 20% of the Welsh can actually speak Welsh, and still less can speak it fluently.
Both the Welsh and the Scottish absolutely hate the English in sporting terms, and would be delirious if they ever managed to beat us. The Northern Irish aren't quite so bad, perhaps because they've got their own local hatreds taking up all their attention. From an English perspective, most of the time we don't really hate any of them, but we take great satisfaction in beating them, just because they hate us so much. I think part of the national psychological problem with the England football team is that we have this dual national identity of British/English which is a little hard to quantify. The other home nations can safely be intensely nationalist from the high ground of being unwilling colonies. For me, I generally take pride in the whole of the United Kingdom, and find it a bit weird to suddenly just be "English" in identity, which tends to be associated with violent nationalism and beer-swilling imbeciles.
Do the welsh though? I spent a lot of my yoof in wales and although there was a certain ribbing about nationalism, it was kinda all brotherly. yes, they love their Celtic roots and language, but I feel the Welsh and N. Irish are a lot less anti-english than the scots. I also feel the welsh are lot more pro union.
Last time I was in glasgow, we were warned by our Glaswegian bosses not to talk in public (i.e. pubs etc) as they'd cotton on we're English, worse still southerners, and give us a good kicking. Can you imagine telling a shot not to talk in public when in London becuase he might get a kicking? I'd say the Scots are infuriatingly nationalist (aside from their remain vote) and thankfully although they see sense at the referendums, there's this nonsensical idea that they could somehow economically survive seperate from UK financial support (just about every economic review over the last three decades states otherwise).
The obvious issue is the England are a bit sheepish about the St George Flag being a racist symbol but are more openly patriotic about the Union (also becuase it makes us a larger nation ruled by England, duh).