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gordan100
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How is this mix? Bass plucks at the beginning - too loud?


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It would sound much better with different kick, i agree. It's somehow too lo-fi for the rest of the track imo. Nice bass.

Regarding embed from sc... Do you get the overlay window when you click on share button?



agree about the kick, i detest that kind of modern kick sound, sounds horrible in clubs as well


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How is this mix? Bass plucks at the beginning - too loud?



very loud and very wide, honestly mate id move onto something new at this stage :-/


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very loud and very wide, honestly mate id move onto something new at this stage :-/


Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever

I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.


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theterran
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quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever

I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.



Previous track you posted from this had, I'm sorry to say, a fairly terrible mix...Dynamic range was squashed, and the stereo is way too wide. Lots of harsh mid-highs and high end as well, made my ears hurt a little bit, even at lower volume. Sounds to me like you were trying to master it with ear fatigue.

It's good to give your ears 3-4 days of rest before attempting a final mixdown / master...You lose sensitivity to alot of the mid-> high range with ear fatigue, and your mixes will come out harsh as fuck. When you go for the final mix-down / master it's also good to make adjustments as quickly and efficiently as possible...or else : ear fatigue.

The next one holds some promise. Mix is decent. Pretty interesting, and a good vibe up until 4:06. I personally don't like that delayed instrument you add in there...Was hoping for something a little more melodic / chilled out.

keep at it...

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Richard Butler
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It would sound much better with different kick, i agree. It's somehow too lo-fi for the rest of the track imo. Nice bass.

Regarding embed from sc... Do you get the overlay window when you click on share button?




Firstly to you 3 guys that feedback about kick - yes it does sound very low-fi n dry doesn't it, I've tried many different kicks so far, the search continues...... I'm finding deeper 909 type kicks take away from the strings in the drop which are the central theme for me.

SOUNDCLOUD ISSUE - so I used to get that overlay screen when click the share button, but now I just get a translucent white screen with no codes or anything to embed. Sent Soundcloud an enquiry about this but all they sent back was a feedback survey asking how I found their service reply to my query!


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Richard Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever

I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.



Overall a decent vibe but 3 crits for ya;

Hatz are too loud and distracting me.
Bass jumps out of the mix on certain notes, just needs a little taming.
It's a bit samey after a while, needs some journey.

I see your drums are getting much better now.


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gordan100
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Originally posted by Richard Butler
Firstly to you 3 guys that feedback about kick - yes it does sound very low-fi n dry doesn't it, I've tried many different kicks so far, the search continues...... I'm finding deeper 909 type kicks take away from the strings in the drop which are the central theme for me.

SOUNDCLOUD ISSUE - so I used to get that overlay screen when click the share button, but now I just get a translucent white screen with no codes or anything to embed. Sent Soundcloud an enquiry about this but all they sent back was a feedback survey asking how I found their service reply to my query!


Did you try with different browsers, chrome or edge, i don't know what are you using now?

Thanks TheTerran and Richard for comments. Yeah, i don't like the delayed sound anymore too and bass gets boring quickly. I think that first version of this is still better.


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quote:
Originally posted by gordan100
Thanks I did I'm really very tired from that shit. I will not touch it for a month at least, if ever

I was washing my ears with tweaking an old one. Don't know if it's any good, I've overcomplicated in second break i think.




Musically, I like this one. Its a style I'd listen to. It has a potential to be very lush yet hypnotic in some elements.

Mix wise - I don't think the stereo imaging is correct. the low mids sound too wide, so they lack the firmness. The pad - it is very "out there" and sounds like it is a bit drowned in reverb and too wide for it's own good, and it just falls out of focus. Perhaps if it had a mono low-end layer added to it would anchor it more.

Not a fan of the delayed bass(not the static one) sound at all but that might just be a matter of taste. I have a feeling that it was supposed to work as a hook, but it just doesn't IMO and frankly it is a boring sound/set of notes.

As I said I like the track, it reminds me of some of Hiroshi Watanabe's older work on Kompakt , and he is one of my all time favorite producers, so there is that.


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theterran
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There, pretty much done with this one.

Even went the whole 9 and upped to youtube for that 192 kbps bitrate.



Cleaned up some artifacts at the very start.

Did some nuancy stuff and synth balancing.

Played with more of the FX noises that come in and out...

Too late now, but if I struggle with bass presets in the future I'm building my own from init. Too used to this bass sound now to switch. Loses power at A#3 @50hz for some reason...just the nature of this bass(es). Did the best I could with some fine frequency tuning, delay / sustain adjustment and more work with the compressor and eq.

Programmed my own 3-layer white noise to mesh in with the whoosh FX I used. I liked the woosh, but I wanted more control. Hopefully I got close enough where it's not distracting.

Added more oomph to downlifter.

Played around with the pads more after the 1st break. Should have a little more going on, but overall I'm keeping the 2nd build-up the way it is. I compensated for the lack of instruments going into the 2nd build-up by hitting the main theme softer, and building up more into the peak before the 2nd break-down.

Added a light array of processing to the master bus.

Multiband Comp. -> Light EQ. -> Vintage tape warmer -> Limiter

Sits at around 6-8 db dynamic range, and I feel like I can turn it up pretty loud before it begins to distort.

Overall I think it turned out alright. I like it at least .

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chris marsh
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quote:
Originally posted by theterran
There, pretty much done with this one.

Even went the whole 9 and upped to youtube for that 192 kbps bitrate.



Cleaned up some artifacts at the very start.

Did some nuancy stuff and synth balancing.

Played with more of the FX noises that come in and out...

Too late now, but if I struggle with bass presets in the future I'm building my own from init. Too used to this bass sound now to switch. Loses power at A#3 @50hz for some reason...just the nature of this bass(es). Did the best I could with some fine frequency tuning, delay / sustain adjustment and more work with the compressor and eq.

Programmed my own 3-layer white noise to mesh in with the whoosh FX I used. I liked the woosh, but I wanted more control. Hopefully I got close enough where it's not distracting.

Added more oomph to downlifter.

Played around with the pads more after the 1st break. Should have a little more going on, but overall I'm keeping the 2nd build-up the way it is. I compensated for the lack of instruments going into the 2nd build-up by hitting the main theme softer, and building up more into the peak before the 2nd break-down.

Added a light array of processing to the master bus.

Multiband Comp. -> Light EQ. -> Vintage tape warmer -> Limiter

Sits at around 6-8 db dynamic range, and I feel like I can turn it up pretty loud before it begins to distort.

Overall I think it turned out alright. I like it at least .



its a really nice tune, music is great, wet fx great, arrangement great

my initial impression is that it just doesn't have enough "omph" for a finished track

clap isn't powerful/loud enough for me

also i find the hats/tops percussion not cutting enough/ loud enough. i just feel like the whole frequency spectrum is not as full as it could be

once my ears get used to it it sounds fine, but its the initial impression that counts in a way. id recommend referencing similar professional tracks when mixing down

IMO IMO


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chris marsh
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this is still rough as fuck and i know the mix is all over the place and needs loads of work but i like where it is going as a work in progress

doing this kind of music is challenging for me but definitely a direction i want to go in


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